> There are also a few drawing programs in koffice, and they tend to get better > from release to release... >
Actually, just from personal experience doing 4.0 ports testing and setting up my kids' machines (my kids become release install guinea pigs every release :), While I still have to struggle to maintain sphincter control while using anything other than twm or fvwm, I've taken to installing the full bloat kde stuff on my kid's machines for their everyday use, and frankly I'm amazed at how much better the port and the package in general has gotten in the past couple years. My kids are now regularly doing their schoolwork on it, and only boot windows to play games. (mind you, the fact that the house pf rules prohibit "OS Windows" from doing anything but web also has something to do with that) I just turn my kids loose on kde these days and they find ways to do what they need. I'm fairly impressed at how well OpenBSD with a full kde install and a few key ports dropped in works for this. -Bob