> There are also a few drawing programs in koffice, and they tend to get better
> from release to release...
> 

        Actually, just from personal experience doing 4.0 ports testing and
setting up my kids' machines (my kids become release install guinea
pigs every release :), While I still have to struggle to maintain
sphincter control while using anything other than twm or fvwm, I've
taken to installing the full bloat kde stuff on my kid's machines for
their everyday use, and frankly I'm amazed at how much better the port
and the package in general has gotten in the past couple years. My
kids are now regularly doing their schoolwork on it, and only boot
windows to play games. (mind you, the fact that the house pf rules
prohibit "OS Windows" from doing anything but web also has something to
do with that)

        I just turn my kids loose on kde these days and they find
ways to do what they need.  I'm fairly impressed at how well OpenBSD
with a full kde install and a few key ports dropped in works for this. 

        -Bob

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