Ops!  I did not added the "-group" switch to repl(1)!!!

Sorry, this message should be directed to the mailing list too.

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Date:    Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:09:18 +0200
From:    Igor Sobrado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:      Pedro Martelletto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sharing ffs filesystems between NetBSD and OpenBSD 

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pedro Martelletto writes:
> How could I possibly have missed that question...
> 
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:13:06AM +0200, Igor Sobrado wrote:
> > By the way, when will ffs2 be available in OpenBSD?  From the changelogs
> > I see that there is some work being done in preparation for ffs2, these
> > are excellent news.
> 
> Kernel support is near completion, 4.1 is likely to ship with it.
> However, that's not enough. There's still a lot of work to do.

Will it be available in one or two years?  Wow!  It is excellent!!!

Certainly ffs2 should not be released until it is working (a filesystem
is a critical component when speaking about OS stability!); availability
in one or two years are excellent news.

> Basically, it's an equation of very few people hacking on stuff and a
> lot of whine-only slackers who, for some obscure reason, prefer to
> ignore and not test file system diffs.

There are probably more important problems to be fixed.  :-)

Perhaps ffs2 advantages are not obvious yet.  Apart of lazy initialization
(perhaps the feature easiest to see from a users point of view) its
expandability will be great.  Adding some fine grained permissions should
not be difficult once ffs2 is working.  I think that it is an excellent
filesystem but, to be honest, I was thinking on ffs2 as a way to support
interchangeable external drives in both NetBSD and OpenBSD.  As there
are other issues that should be fixed before making these drives
"portable" (e.g., the BSD disk label incompatibilities) there is not
a strong reason for asking for ffs2 now.  I was thinking on ffs2 as
a way to share the same (ffs2) filesystem between both OSes.  Now, it
seems that there is no reason for downgrading the filesystem on the
disks attached to NetBSD.  It is certainly better not sharing drives
between both OSes.

Cheers,
Igor.

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