:( I wanted to also give OpenBSD a little free marketing (the monthly traffic
of the Ronja website http://ronja.twibright.com is IIRC around 10GB) by proudly
stating we use it on the project (well, me on my devel machine), but it looks
like every time I discuss OpenBSD on the Ronja mailing list I would have to
take care whether I already put OpenBSD into negative light or not yet, and
possibly remove the logo.

Which is a bit impractical to keep on my mind for indefinite future so I am
better removing the picture now and leaving just a textual link.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/creat/ronja/trunk/grx/tools$ svn rm openbsd.png 
D         openbsd.png

At least I don't have to have a special paragraph dedicated to OpenBSD logo
on the Ronja copyright page :)

CL<

On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 11:27:26AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Yes, it means that if you are an asshole towards OpenBSD we
> withdraw your right to use *OUR* artwork.
> 
> That is EXACTLY what it means.
> 
> That's how every COPYRIGHT and TRADEMARK holder in the world
> does this, and how we will.
> 
> We have to.  There are laws which demand that we protect our
> "image", because if we don't protect it, noone will help us
> protect it.
> 
> Now please, I have way more important things to do.
> 
> > Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:25:13 +0200
> > From: Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Twibright Ronja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: OpenBSD artwork website wording
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> > On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 10:42:04AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > > > I would personally see terms "you can use the logo to represent your 
> > > > usage of
> > > > OpenBSD or compatibility with OpenBSD" more appropriate for a free 
> > > > software
> > > > project logo than the band-aid-over-mouth "represent OpenBSD in a 
> > > > positive
> > > > light".
> > > 
> > > except those are not the types of terms that we can reasonably do, and
> > > still be protecting our rights.
> > > 
> > > i've researched what we can do.  i've researched the downsides.  please
> > > don't lecture me... i'm trying to do the best for everyone.
> > 
> > But does it then mean that I cannot criticize OpenBSD in connection with
> > Ronja?
> > 
> > CL<

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