thus Pawel S. Veselov spake:
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 04:26:55PM +0200, Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
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All you achieve with this idiotic idea is that you get the providers
attention because you spam their logs and they'll propably cancel the
contract because of abuse.
Heh, have you ever tried calling an ISP ? I mean big ISP, and you calling with
a technical question ?
depends on who's calling, a guy with a 56k dialup or 25Mbps DSLame or
someone with a bunch of E3/T3s...
Gives you perspective on what kinda staff runs the ISPs
these days. Also, how many new leases are requested from this provider every
minute ? Would another one count ? Don't think so.
that's one side of the coin. the other one is that surely monitoring of
these services takes place and one can clearly see his line at the DSLAM
causing requests for a new lease on a per-minute basis. that's not a
'resource problem' at that moment, but should cause the raise of
attention. (a single virus is no problem for your body and immune
system; however, it will immediately start its defense. same should
apply to the ISP.)
Having service terminated because of an illegal client behavior is the least
likely thing to happen nowadays.
err, you read those news on the net? why do ISPs block port 25? why do
they implement traffic shaping? why do they force customers to use
transparent proxies? etc.
Hey, they don't care if your compulter is
loaded with viruses that redistribute themselves like crazy.
why should they? that'd mean surveillance at L6/7 which is nonsense (at
least, you're not the NSA etc.). they can max out their line, that's all.
Or if you are
sending spam.
not causing waste of resources beyond the line.
No one is watching your connection, unless someone comes to your
ISP with a warrant of sorts. ISP needs your 30 bucks a month more than they
need anything else.
nah, that's a bad argument. abuse is abuse, no matter what the customer
pays -- if he violates what's part of the contract, the ISP can do what
it wants to stop it.
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Thanks,
Pawel.
P.S. This thread needs a new name
dying threads don't need new subjects ;)
P.P.S. lol, no one from this list works for an ISP ? :)
i think there indeed are people working for ISPs. :)
