On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 12:04:11AM -0400, Chet Uber wrote:
> Not to bicker, but the resources needed to use a database of all  
> possible passwords even with alphanumerics and salted is very finite  
> -- albeit large.

OpenBSD's blowfish passwords have 128-bits of salt.  A table of all 8 
character (lower-case only) alphanumeric passwords would require 2^128 * 
(26+10)^8 ~= 9.6*10^50 entries.  Being ``very finite'' is irrelevant at 
this order of magnitude.

> Just don't want people to think that they are safe as is not an NP- 
> complete problem. It is an NP-hard problem however.

You are aware NP-complete problems are, by definition, reducible to 
NP-hard problems, right?  In other words, NP-hard problems are 
``harder'' than NP-complete ones.

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