Oh, uh, really? Had no idea 1and1 was quite large ;)

If that's what they're worried about, then they could use private
vlans...

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk814/tk840/tsd_technology_support
_sub-protocol_home.html

http://www.riverstonenet.com/support/configdb/0026.html

Now THAT's a good thing (with ACL's of course to cover things.)

This way the client doesn't have to do anything, and they conserve
address space...

Of course, let's say the vendor offers the /30 connection for a slightly
increased rate? You think this customer would've said yes? I betcha they
would've.

Then there's the annual 'cost' of IP addressing... $2500 for a /19?
$4500 for a /16? For a company that size, I'm just not sure what the
fuss over the expense is ... that should be a drop in the bucket for
them.

So what do they get instead? Support staff tied up with this client, and
the same unhappy client trashing them on this mailing list. Good job,
1and1 !!!


Dan Farrell
Applied Innovations
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:59 PM
To: Dan Farrell
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: FYI, 1and1 hosting fun (ip subnet zero)

On 2006/05/11 13:28, Dan Farrell wrote:
> Geez network setups just shouldn't be that strained... I mean, what
> happened to hooking up a server with a /30 connection to the nearest
> router? Am I missing something? 

These are, uh, quite large operations, and if there's a way to reduce
IP address use by 3/4 without putting a bunch of customers in the same
subnet that's probably a good thing.

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