Why are you both so sure that the world will develop according to your needs?
I also use x11 through the network from time to time, I use twm, that are the two things I will most miss from x11. But I am aware that in both things I am in a tiny minority compared with the lot of gamers, the lot of people dreaming of a wonderful desktop experience, whatever that may mean. The dream of the great majority is the nightmare of the tiny minority. The development seems to be clear, and I wrote because I am alarmed. It seems, it began by outsourcing the rendering from the server to the client, also by avoiding IPC through networking, then the X server became avoidable, a window manager plays now in wayland its role. Perhaps this development may be reversed with little work, making the graphical display through the network again attractive, modernizing the rendering at server side. Perhaps the hardest work remain on device drivers. I am no expert, sure someone here knows it better. Rod. Am So., 15. Juni 2025 um 17:33 Uhr schrieb Christopher Turkel <turkel.christop...@gmail.com>: > > I agree xorg isn’t going anywhere anytime soon but the ground work should > laid in case Wayland becomes inevitable, like various toolkits dropping xorg > support. > > On Sunday, June 15, 2025, Crystal Kolipe <kolip...@exoticsilicon.com> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 09:36:42AM -0400, Christopher Turkel wrote: >> > Maintaining a fork would be a tremendous effort >> >> As somebody who actually uses the networking parts of X11 on a daily basis, >> (I.E. programs running on one machine and displaying their graphical output >> on >> an X server running on a completely different machine), I can assure you >> that >> this discussion of X11 disappearing anytime in the foreseeable future is >> laughable (*). >> >> Wayland might, (or might not), be a solution to the, 'one user in front of >> their own directly connected keyboard and screen', that the industry started >> to move towards in the mid 1980s, but there are currently plenty of X11 >> installations deployed in applications that Wayland will never, (at least in >> it's current form), be able to supplant. >> >> It's also worth noting that we've seen large shifts in the X11 userbase >> before. Back in the early 2000s a lot of the Linux distros ditched XFree86 >> due to licensing changes, and went back to the Xorg server which had >> previously been ditched in favour of XFree86. >> >> So nothing much to see here. >> >> (*) Besides, if the concept was without merit, then Plan-9 would have failed >> as well.
