On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 10:39:25PM +0000, H. Hartzer wrote:
> I figure this may not be worthy of tech@. Just wanted to mention
> some thoughts.
> 
> I see a lot of work done around the various NIC offloading features.
> Personally, I've had a lot of problems with these. Typically involving
> virtualization at the guest level or the host level.

If you still see problems in your setup running current/stable OpenBSD.
Please write a report about it to b...@openbsd.org.  Your are also
welcome give some feedback of your offloading Linux problems re-tested
with OpenBSD.

> Now a lot of my experience here comes from Linux many moons ago.
> But I found a lot of hardware that wouldn't play nicely unless
> offloading was disabled, with the most aggravating bugs. There's
> also minor nuisances, like checksums not matching in tcpdump under
> some circumstances. And some NICs would seem to "go bad" at some
> point at not play nicely with those settings enabled.
> 
> I'm not 100% sure what the CPU savings are, but for my cases I've
> never found a situation that was impacted an obvious amount by
> having offloading features disabled. I also think that there can
> be some security issues where a packet might get by that the NIC
> splits up (I think segmentation offloading can do this) and it gets
> broken into another packet that would normally not be permitted.
> 
> I certainly don't have all the answers here, and my experience on
> the matter is rather old. I just had enough of a persistently poor
> experience with offloading features to where I assume that I would
> rather not have any offloading code at all.
> 
> That said, maybe some chipsets work great. And maybe some of the
> features, especially say outbound, are quite reliable. I'm just a
> skeptic after being bitten by it. Maybe some of it was Linux related?
> 
> I'm sure someone here has had a more positive experience with it,
> or can attest that the performance gains are worthwhile, or that
> it can be utilized only on hardware known to be reliable with it.
> 
> Most of my experience involves gigabit hardware and performance
> requirements, so I can see how at say 40gbit/sec, offloading is 40x
> more valuable.

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