On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 04:52:04PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hello Jonathan, > > Jonathan Gray wrote on Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 01:56:29AM +1100: > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 02:55:31PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > >> Andrew Daugherity wrote on Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 06:18:43PM -0500: > > >>> Because I was curious, and Brian Conway had replied that this dated > >>> back to the very first commit of OpenBSD in Oct. 1995 > >>> https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/df930be708d50e9715f173caa26ffe1b7599b157/etc/netstart#L29 > >>> when it was > forked from NetBSD, I went looking through the NetBSD > >>> history. > >>> Evidently support for /etc/my{name,gate} and /etc/hostname.* was added > >>> in Apr. 1993, just before the release of NetBSD 0.8 > >>> https://github.com/NetBSD/src/commit/80e5f01ba42eb7e7bc57b9dfe71a889ab11f995c > > >> Continuing the timeline backwards: > >> > >> July 19, 1993 FreeBSD: Rodney W. Grimes adds myname(5) and mygate(5) > >> support > >> commit message: > >> "From NetBSD, copied verbatium. May need some work yet." > >> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/commit/0a71fe69 > >> This tells us that none of this came from FreeBSD. > >> Apr 20, 1993 NetBSD 0.8 release > >> Apr 02, 1993 cgd@ commits myname(5) and mygate(5) support to NetBSD > >> Jul 14, 1992 386BSD 0.1 release > >> There, /etc/netstart uses /etc/myname (but not mygate) > >> https://github.com/386bsd/386bsd/blob/0.1/etc/netstart > >> Appears to be based on SCCS revision 5.9, but with > >> modifications > > > no /etc/myname in the 386BSD 0.1 sources that were on minnie.tuhs.org > > https://github.com/jonathangray/386bsd/blob/master/othersrc/etc/netstart > > > > extracting the 0.1 etc files from another source also doesn't have it > > Very strange. In a copy of the 386.0.1 sources that i have, > the file etc/netstart does contain > > hostname=`cat /etc/myname` > hostname $hostname > > and all the meta files on the top level (like BUGNFIX.FORM, CAREWARE.INFO, > CONTRIB.LIST, COPYRIGHT, DISTRIBUTION.HOSTS, INSTALL.NOTES, ROADMAP > and so on clearly say "386BSD RELEASE 0.1" and "July 1992". > > As far as i remeber, i did get that file from minnie.tuhs.org > on February 21, 2014. Given that your observations differ, > either i made a mistake back then (but i don't quite see what kind > of a mistake that might have been), or different versions of 386BSD 0.1 > existed.
It turns out netstart from the 386BSD 0.1 bin01* sets has the change, but netstart from the etc01* does not. 0.1 bin: # my-name is my symbolic name # my-netmask is specified in /etc/networks # hostname=`cat /etc/myname` hostname $hostname 0.1 etc: # myname is my symbolic name # my-netmask is specified in /etc/networks # hostname=myname.my.domain hostname $hostname 0.1 src: no netstart file 0.0 bin: # my-name is my symbolic name # my-netmask is specified in /etc/networks # hostname=my-name hostname $hostname 0.0 src: # myname is my symbolic name # my-netmask is specified in /etc/networks # hostname=myname.my.domain Net/2: # myname is my symbolic name # my-netmask is specified in /etc/networks # hostname=myname.my.domain > > > If it were really in 0.1, there wouldn't be commits to add it to > > NetBSD and FreeBSD. > > That argument has some merit because the development that led to both > NetBSD 0.8 and FreeBSD 1.0 was indeed based on 386BSD 0.1. > > So i guess the most reasonable option is to just refer to NetBSD 0.8 > for now. > > >> March 1992 386BSD 0.0 release; it uses neither; SCCS revision 5.9 > >> > >> https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/386BSD-0.0-Snapshot-Development/usr/src/etc/netstart > >> So 0.0 is apparently based on Net/2 (5.9) without > >> modifications. > >> Aug 20, 1991 4.3BSD Net/2 release; it uses neither; SCCS revision 5.9 > >> June 1990 4.3BSD-Reno release; it uses neither; SCCS revision 5.9 > > > Why should people know the release these manual pages appeared? > > I agree such information usually isn't needed. In this case, i didn't > remove it because (1) the point of the patch was adding missing > information and removing something would only be loosely related > and (2) the delay between introducing the feature and documenting it > was unusually long. Not very strong arguments, though. > > So maybe like this? > Ingo > ok jsg@ for this with myname changed from .Nx 0.8 to 386BSD 0.1 sorry for the confusion > > Index: myname.5 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/src/share/man/man5/myname.5,v > diff -u -r1.12 myname.5 > --- myname.5 1 Jul 2021 01:16:13 -0000 1.12 > +++ myname.5 28 Mar 2025 15:25:27 -0000 > @@ -64,5 +64,7 @@ > .Xr hostname 7 , > .Xr rc 8 > .Sh HISTORY > -This manual page first appeared in > -.Ox 3.4 . > +Support for the file > +.Pa /etc/myname > +first appeared in > +.Nx 0.8 . > Index: mygate.5 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/src/share/man/man5/mygate.5,v > diff -u -r1.2 mygate.5 > --- mygate.5 17 Oct 2021 13:20:46 -0000 1.2 > +++ mygate.5 28 Mar 2025 15:25:27 -0000 > @@ -82,5 +82,7 @@ > .Xr netstart 8 , > .Xr route 8 > .Sh HISTORY > -This manual page first appeared in > -.Ox 3.4 . > +Support for the file > +.Pa /etc/mygate > +first appeared in > +.Nx 0.8 . > >
