On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 09:57:25PM +0200, Tobias Kirschstein wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:50:04 +0200
> Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * Tobias Kirschstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-25 20:26]:
> > > > Maybe our friends of humppa.com will make a "Humppa OpenBSD
> > > > Support Tour 2006" or add them to the 11 OpenBSD songs.
> > > 
> > > ... as you mention it: an (maybe more funny) idea would be some
> > > benefit humppa concerts with e.g. Elaekelaeiset where some percent
> > > of the entrance fee will be donated to the OpenBSD project. Some
> > > CDs and t-shirts can be sold there, too. This way nobody has to pay
> > > for any
> > 
> > have you organzied that yet?
> 
> is this a rhetorical question? :)
> 
> no i haven't, but oliver and i will meet Elaekelaeiset next week in
> regensburg maybe i could ask them there if they are interested in such
> a thing at all.
> it doesn't hurt to ask.

(This rant applies to every respondent to these threads, not one
person in particular.)

But it does.  Ideas like these have been filling up my mailbox and
wasting everybody's time and bandwidth.  Under your logic, spam
doesn't hurt either.  Prank calls don't hurt.  What you don't realize
is that it wastes everybody's time to read and respond.  That doesn't
even take into account the implementation cost of each idea.

Want to help?  Really help?  Just do it.  Organize a benefit Humppa
concert, then let us know.  Set up collection funds, sell M&Ms for
$1 each, whatever.  Whatever idea it is you have, implement it.
Then pass the proceeds to the project.

This has been done in the past.  That's how the G5 was donated to
the project.  Someone stepped up to organize the collection funds
and once the funds were complete the money was sent to the appropriate
people.  Do you think the same thing would have happened if 50
people just kept saying, "Apple should donate to OpenBSD.  Somebody
should organize a fund raiser.  Let's sign up for an online petition!"?

You may think your ideas are easy to set up and that you are being
helpful by submitting more and more ideas (despite being repeatedly
told otherwise), but all these things take time to do, and every
idea without an action just wastes time.

-Ray-

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