Joachim Schipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 09:31:33PM +0000, Larry O'Neill (H.S.A.) wrote:
> > Hi.
> > I have a disk from an Alpha server that I need to get data from... The
> > Alpha server no longer boots, and I dont have the time right now to
> > diagnose the problem. So I took the disk and lashed it into a Sun Ultra60,
> > which is also running OpenBSD. My problem is that I cant remember all of
> > the details of the partitioning that the disk had... So in terms of
> > getting access to the data, how do I find out what to put into disklabel
> > for it? Unfortunately due to other complications, I currently dont have
> > fdisk on the machine.
> > 
> > (only 2 slots for Ultra2 SCSI Wide, one was root disk, other was /usr.
> > Copied as much stuff onto the root disk that space would alow, so that I
> > could remove the origional /usr disk and put in the one I need the data
> > from. This caused some stuff not to work because not all of it could be
> > copied over)
> 
> As Theo pointed out, this is rather difficult (though I had no idea it
> was *that* difficult, honestly).
> 
> A low-level disk recovery is possible, but extremely painful. I have no
> idea if such recovery-kits as The Corononer's Toolkit and the Sleuthkit
> (newer than TCT) work on Alpha disks (they do claim to work on OpenBSD),
> but if they do, they might be a good bet, changing low-level recovery
> from 'extremely painful' to something more like 'very painful'.
> 
> Be aware that they are both meant to gather information from a system
> after it's been broken into, more than recover a complete filesystem
> from scratch, which is one of the reasons for the 'very painful'.
> Notably, they seem to deal mainly in deleted inodes, rather than
> allocated ones, and I am not at all certain they can even be made to
> work with allocated nodes.
> 
> If you can get the Alpha to come up even a bit, you could write a bunch
> of NULLs and a large tar file directly to disk, which would be much
> easier to recover (the NULLs are optional, but make it easier to see
> where the data starts; directly means bypassing the filesystem, which
> might scatter stuff all over the place). However, I gather that's not an
> option, and if you can get the Alpha up that far you could probably just
> nc the whole thing.
> 
> If the data is not too private, you might want to check if there is a
> fellow Alpha owner near - that would, by far, be the easiest solution.
> 
> Of course, you can always try hacking the kernel to read Alpha disks,
> but that is likely to be far from trivial.
> 

The big task is really endianess, look at NetBSD's 'option FFS_EI'. The
easiest solution should be just slapping the drive into a stray i386 box.

martin

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