On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 8:18 AM Nick Holland <n...@holland-consulting.net>
wrote:

> On 10/17/23 05:07, David Higgs wrote:
> > I have an underpowered amd64 VPS and attempted to (auto)upgrade it to
> 7.4.
> > Everything went swimmingly until it attempted to relink the kernel, at
> > which point it (seemingly) hung.
> >
> > With previous releases, I would expect the host to become unresponsive
> for
> > a few minutes, and eventually recover. I chalked the issue up to
> > insufficient RAM and hitting swap - however, my upgrade has been in this
> > state for more than 6 hours.
> >
> > I plan to consult the manual upgrade guide to hopefully figure out a way
> to
> > successfully finish the install, and then disable relinking while I find
> a
> > solution.
> >
> > Does anyone have tips for this situation, aside from throwing more
> hardware
> > at it?
>
> I had some issues with a VPS for a while -- absolutely horrific disk
> performance.  Upgrades that used to take ten minutes (and yes, THAT was
> really bad) started taking well over an hour (I gave up, stopped it, and
> did it manually by unpacking tar files, coping kernel, etc., so I have no
> idea what the actual time was going to be if I had let it complete).  I
> contacted tech support at the VPS, and they came back with, "oh yeah, you
> are on some really old hardware.  Please set up a new instance and migrate
> to that, that should solve your problem", but since the machine was doing
> its usual job just fine (low volume mail and webserver), I was slow to
> actually do this.  Finally, they sent me notice they were decommissioning
> the old hw I was on, and I HAD to move by x/x/xxxx, and thus, I did, and
> things are much better.  And it turned out, cheaper.
>
> However, I did find it interesting that my poor disk performance was even
> worse when doing the upgrade.
>
> Moral: might be worth talking to your VPS provider.  You might be on old
> hw, too.
>
> A number of releases ago, but after KARL and library relinks1, I found
> that on i386, 384MB was required to prevent swapping during the kernel and
> library relink at boot.  I'm assuming it is "worse" now, and worse yet on
> amd64.
>

For the record, my VPS had 256 MB RAM and another 256 MB of swap.  Seems
like I can easily provision a new VPS - beefier and for the same price -
using their dashboard, so the solution is pretty trivial.

Thanks to all who replied!

--david

--david

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