On 1/21/23, David Gwynne <da...@gwynne.id.au> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 01:46:34PM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote:
>> On 1/20/23, David Gwynne <da...@gwynne.id.au> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 11:09:47AM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I am trying get a new ISP setup working.  The Router is
>> >> causing some pain.  There is a /28 public block assigned.
>> >> The DSL router can't be configured in transparent bridge
>> >> mode (they say).  It holds on to one of the /28 addresses.
>> >
>> > i'm sure they say that, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. this
>> > will be a lot easier and more useful if you can get a dsl modem
>> > into bridge/transparent mode and do all the routing on your own
>> > box.
>>
>> OK. So the situation was a bit worse than I had actually
>> anticipated.  After I got the described setup configured
>> I noticed that the DSL Router/Modem wouldn't send out
>> any traffic unless it had an arp entry for the source.
>> e.g., nat-to an unassigned IP from the /28 wouldn't go out.
>>
>> Again, in my limited networking knowledge, it meant I had
>> to do proxy arp entries for /28 public IPs in the $dmz.
>> This was quite frustrating.
>>
>> So I started poking around in the DSL Router/modem settings
>> (cuing off your "doesn't mean it's impossible") and I
>> have it now acting as a transparent bridge!
>>
>> I spent most of Tues on the phone with their techs, and I
>> was assured that is not possible/unsupported.  Now maybe
>> they actually meant "unsupported" mode as far as their
>> support is concerned.
>>
>> But things seem to running as expect (so far)!  So thanks
>> for the bit of "encouragement"!
>
> Does that mean you have the WAN IP on your router now? And you can do
> whatever you want with the /28?

Yep!  And it made things so much easier to set up.

>> > that would also give you the option to do fun stuff like NOT putting
>> > the /28 onto an ethernet network so you could you use all 16 of the
>> > IPs on dmz hosts instead of losing some to network/broadcast/gateway.
>>
>> I am curious how you would go about doing what you suggest:
>> Using all 16 of /28.
>
> The simple (and currently best supported) way is to set up a tunnel
> interface for every IP in the /28 and connect the tunnel to the server
> providing the service. The router would have a config like this:
>
> ifconfig gif0 create
> ifconfig gif0 tunnel $router_lan_ip $server_lan_ip
> ifconfig gif0 inet $router_gif_ip $server_slash28_ip

A bit above my pay-grade.  I'll need to study this later on.

Thanks again for the hints/help!
--patrick


>>
>> Thanks for your reply,
>> --patrick
>>
>>
>> >> The setup looks something like this:
>> >> (and hopefully the ascii "art" remains intact from gmail)
>> >>
>> >>    ( internet )
>> >>         |
>> >>         | [WAN IP]
>> >>   +-----o------+
>> >>  / DSL ROUTER / <-- Transparent bridge mode NOT possible
>> >> +-----o------+
>> >>       | [ one of /28 Public IPs = $dslgw_ip ]
>> >>       |
>> >>       |
>> >>       | $ext
>> >> +-----o------+
>> >> |            |
>> >> | OpenBSD/pf o--- ( rest of /28 Public IP network )
>> >> |            | $dmz      (DMZ: httpd, smtpd, ...)
>> >> +-----o------+
>> >>  $lan | [10.x.x.1]
>> >>       |
>> >> ( 10.x.x.x network )
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As far as networking goes, I need to be spoken to as if I'm
>> >> a fledgling.
>> >>
>> >> I want to do the obvious: use OpenBSD/pf(4) to:
>> >>  - Filter traffic from $ext to $dmz
>> >>  - Filter traffic from $dmz outbound
>> >>  - Filter traffic from $lan (10.x.x.x) to $dmz
>> >>  - NAT traffic from $lan (10.x.x.x) outbound to internet
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'm bridge(4)-ing $ext and $dmz.  Which means I must give
>> >> one of the /28 public IP addresses to either $ext or $dmz
>> >> to be able to do:
>> >>
>> >> # route add default $dslgw_ip
>> >>
>> >> (!?)
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something?
>> >> Is there a better way to configure things?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> --patrick
>> >>
>> >
>

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