apologies all
I missed (speed read Stuarts) mail...

I would have a look at the preemption timer for the Host ...
check out the top of page 15 of this amd manual...
http://developer.amd.com/wp-content/resources/56263-Performance-Tuning-Guidelines-PUB.pdf
I would try the two settings related to the preemption timer  on the
Proxmox Host

Sorry for bombing the list on this one ...


On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 at 22:54, Tom Smyth <tom.sm...@wirelessconnect.eu> wrote:
>
> Stuart,
> sorry I wasnt entirely clear in my last email
>
> 1) you can try the  /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/preemption_timer
>
> if the system is an intel CPU based Physcial server
> 2) if you have an amd System you may find the issue does not occur in that 
> case
>
> 3) looking at the DMESG I see a KVM CPU  in the VM config ...   in
> proxmox you can set it to Host
> if the emulated kvm CPU is causing the issue  with OpenBSD
> this is something to try and it may improve your sytem performance
> more generally (and hopefully
> help the times)
>
> Other people who have Proxmox 7.1 and have access to an AMD CPU based server
>  if they can try running an OpenBSD VM on an Amd Processor
> based server to compare   ( what I found in my experience wiht KVM and
> OpenBSD and Proxmox
> was the Drift issue / COnsole freeze only occured on Intel Based
> systems ...   and the preemption_timer
> kernel setting in the Proxmox Linux Kernel sorted it
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 at 22:45, Tom Smyth <tom.sm...@wirelessconnect.eu> wrote:
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> > is your host on an Intel System ?
> >
> > I had an awful time with Proxmox 5.0 and 5.1
> >
> > with clock drift and console freezes
> >
> > can you try to disable the following feature in the Proxmox Host kernel
> >
> > /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/preemption_timer
> >
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg158768.html
> >
> >
> > You can try change the CPU to  VM to Host (or the lowest generation
> > Processor that is common to all your hosts in the cluster
> > Better acceleration with modern processeor
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 at 22:37, Stuart Henderson
> > <stu.li...@spacehopper.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have some OpenBSD guests in Proxmox VE 7.1-7 (pve-qemu-kvm_6.1.0) and
> > > seeing pretty bad clock drift (50 seconds in ~7h uptime). ntpd can't cope
> > > with it. From boot:
> > >
> > > 2022-04-14T13:58:19.844Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 1.745061s
> > > 2022-04-14T13:59:24.070Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 1.504470s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:03:51.176Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 2.430486s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:07:40.299Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 2.411118s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:11:51.540Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 3.173884s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:15:03.534Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 3.109722s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:16:04.848Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 3.185755s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:17:40.286Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 3.575126s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:18:45.582Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 4.231518s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:22:27.618Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 4.231999s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:25:41.618Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 4.844904s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:29:58.888Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 4.451876s
> > > 2022-04-14T14:32:41.628Z  ntpd[26996]: adjusting local clock by 5.250357s
> > >
> > > etc. No difference whether qemu-ga is used or not. No difference between
> > > passing through the real cpu type (i.e. cpu=host, Ryzen 5650G in this 
> > > case)
> > > and passing through as "common KVM processor". The guest does detect and
> > > use pvclock(4).
> > >
> > > $ sysctl kern.timecounter
> > > kern.timecounter.tick=1
> > > kern.timecounter.timestepwarnings=0
> > > kern.timecounter.hardware=pvclock0
> > > kern.timecounter.choice=i8254(0) pvclock0(1500) acpihpet0(1000) 
> > > acpitimer0(1000)
> > >
> > > Anyone have ideas of things I could try that are less wrong than
> > > running rdate from cron? Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > OpenBSD 7.1 (GENERIC.MP) #463: Thu Apr  7 12:48:15 MDT 2022
> > >     dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
> > > real mem = 1056808960 (1007MB)
> > > avail mem = 1007554560 (960MB)
> > > random: good seed from bootblocks
> > > mpath0 at root
> > > scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
> > > mainbus0 at root
> > > bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.8 @ 0xf58e0 (9 entries)
> > > bios0: vendor SeaBIOS version 
> > > "rel-1.14.0-0-g155821a1990b-prebuilt.qemu.org" date 04/01/2014
> > > bios0: QEMU Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996)
> > > acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 1.0
> > > acpi0: sleep states S3 S4 S5
> > > acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SSDT HPET WAET
> > > acpi0: wakeup devices
> > > acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
> > > acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
> > > cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
> > > cpu0: Common KVM processor, 3892.54 MHz, 0f-06-01
> > > cpu0: 
> > > FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,x2APIC,HV,NXE,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG
> > > cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 
> > > 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
> > > cpu0: ITLB 255 4KB entries direct-mapped, 255 4MB entries direct-mapped
> > > cpu0: DTLB 255 4KB entries direct-mapped, 255 4MB entries direct-mapped
> > > cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
> > > mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
> > > cpu0: apic clock running at 1000MHz
> > > cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
> > > cpu1: Common KVM processor, 3892.11 MHz, 0f-06-01
> > > cpu1: 
> > > FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,x2APIC,HV,NXE,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG
> > > cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 
> > > 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
> > > cpu1: ITLB 255 4KB entries direct-mapped, 255 4MB entries direct-mapped
> > > cpu1: DTLB 255 4KB entries direct-mapped, 255 4MB entries direct-mapped
> > > cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
> > > ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 0 pa 0xfec00000, version 11, 24 pins
> > > acpihpet0 at acpi0: 100000000 Hz
> > > acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
> > > "ACPI0006" at acpi0 not configured
> > > acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0
> > > acpicmos0 at acpi0
> > > "PNP0A06" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "PNP0A06" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "PNP0A06" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "QEMU0002" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "ACPI0010" at acpi0 not configured
> > > "QEMUVGID" at acpi0 not configured
> > > acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!)
> > > acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!)
> > > pvbus0 at mainbus0: KVM
> > > pvclock0 at pvbus0
> > > pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
> > > pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82441FX" rev 0x02
> > > pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Intel 82371SB ISA" rev 0x00
> > > pciide0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 "Intel 82371SB IDE" rev 0x00: DMA, 
> > > channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
> > > pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
> > > atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
> > > scsibus1 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
> > > cd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <QEMU, QEMU DVD-ROM, 2.5+> removable
> > > cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
> > > uhci0 at pci0 dev 1 function 2 "Intel 82371SB USB" rev 0x01: apic 0 int 11
> > > piixpm0 at pci0 dev 1 function 3 "Intel 82371AB Power" rev 0x03: apic 0 
> > > int 9
> > > iic0 at piixpm0
> > > vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Bochs VGA" rev 0x02
> > > wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> > > wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> > > virtio0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "Qumranet Virtio Memory Balloon" rev 0x00
> > > viomb0 at virtio0
> > > virtio0: apic 0 int 11
> > > virtio1 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 "Qumranet Virtio Storage" rev 0x00
> > > vioblk0 at virtio1
> > > scsibus2 at vioblk0: 1 targets
> > > sd0 at scsibus2 targ 0 lun 0: <VirtIO, Block Device, >
> > > sd0: 10240MB, 512 bytes/sector, 20971520 sectors
> > > virtio1: msix per-VQ
> > > virtio2 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 "Qumranet Virtio Network" rev 0x00
> > > vio0 at virtio2: address c6:e5:7f:4f:5e:cf
> > > virtio2: msix shared
> > > ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Red Hat Qemu PCI-PCI" rev 0x00
> > > pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
> > > ppb1 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Red Hat Qemu PCI-PCI" rev 0x00
> > > pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
> > > isa0 at pcib0
> > > isadma0 at isa0
> > > fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
> > > pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 irq 1 irq 12
> > > pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
> > > wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> > > pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
> > > wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
> > > pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
> > > spkr0 at pcppi0
> > > usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
> > > uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 
> > > 1.00/1.00 addr 1
> > > uhidev0 at uhub0 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 "QEMU QEMU USB 
> > > Tablet" rev 2.00/0.00 addr 2
> > > uhidev0: iclass 3/0
> > > ums0 at uhidev0: 3 buttons, Z dir
> > > wsmouse1 at ums0 mux 0
> > > vscsi0 at root
> > > scsibus3 at vscsi0: 256 targets
> > > softraid0 at root
> > > scsibus4 at softraid0: 256 targets
> > > root on sd0a (cf14a346fbf0559d.a) swap on sd0b dump on sd0b
> > > fd0 at fdc0 drive 1: density unknown
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kindest regards,
> > Tom Smyth.
>
>
>
> --
> Kindest regards,
> Tom Smyth.



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