Wow, thanks for all the great responses. I actually found a 2011-ish HP
Notebook I had lying around. I cleaned it, new thermal paste and have it
running now. The only real issue I am seeing is that the Wifi card is an
Atheros (athn0) and while it does connect, I seem to be getting sporadic
connection drops. I then have to restart the networking to reset it :(.  I
tried to put a different wifi card I had lying around in (intel I think),
and my BIOS wouldn't accept it. In any case, I will work to get this up and
running!

Thank you!

Il Gio 17 Giu 2021, 7:04 AM Jan Stary <h...@stare.cz> ha scritto:

> On Jun 15 20:14:14, tomvet...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I was looking to get a laptop to run OpenBSD. The one I am looking at in
> > particular is the Thinkpad R51e (2005). I like this particular model
> > because it does not come with any extra hardware that OpenBSD does not
> > support in the first place (bluetooth, camera, etc.)
>
> Every camera on every Thinkpad I have seen in the last years
> was supported by OpenBSD's video(1); meaning raw frames
> - you will need ffmpeg for the mjpeg stream.
>
> > My main concern is the
> > longevity that this model would have going forward. I already have a '94
>
> You can get a Thinkpad that is 20 years younger for peanuts.
>
> > Thinkpad that cannot run the latest OpenBSD well because hardware support
> > was gradually dropped during code cleanups, etc (i.e. newer versions of
> X11
> > removed support for my ancient graphics chip because it just wasn't worth
> > the time to maintain the code).
>
> On Jun 15 21:39:48, n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
> > But the machine you are looking at is 16 years old.  Odds are, OpenBSD
> > will support that machine longer than you will find the machine useful
>
> Exactly. As far as this January, OpenBSD ran just fine on my R52
> https://github.com/janstary/dmesg/blob/master/thinkpad-R52.20210123
> but I got rid of it anyway, for reasons others have described here.
>
> > (assuming it is usable on OpenBSD now.  If it is filled with nvidia hw,
> > game over). Sounds like it's a fairly limited machine -- with expansion,
> > MAYBE just barely enough RAM to run a modern browser, but probably not
> > pleasantly.  Make sure it's a SATA machine, not an IDE (IDE laptop
> > drives are getting hard to find) and make sure you got enough RAM,
> > upgrading it might be expensive.  I doubt this is going to be a
> > long-term machine for you.
> >
> > And for what it is worth, I have a machine a few years newer than yours
> > that I've owned and dual-booted for well over ten years...except that
> even
> > though it's specs are "sufficient" for what I might want to do with
> Windows
> > on it, Windows 10 no longer supports the video hw it has.  OpenBSD still
> > does.  Surprise.
>
> Heh, that's actualy a stable source of Thinkpads for me:
> win users get rid of it as it cannot run their win version,
> but the machine itself is just fine.
>
> > Although OpenBSD doesn't support bluetooth, it doesn't get in the
> > way of anything.
>
> Removing the BT card seems to save a bit of battery life.
>
> > On X220 and maybe others if you particularly don't
> > want to have the hardware, you could just remove the daughtercard
> > that runs it (some people do this anyway to gain an additional USB
> > interface); maybe swap the wifi interface too, as some of them are
> > combined wifi+BT.
>
> Yes; but some Thinkpads' BIOSes contain a whitelist of sanctioned wifi
> cards, and will not boot with other cards. So sometimes you are kinda
> stuck with the original one, unless you find the exact compatibility
> list and get a supported card. Typically, I end up replacing a Broadcom
> wifi/bt card with one whitelisted iwn(4) or another.
>
>         Jan
>
>

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