Stuart Longland <stua...@longlandclan.id.au> wrote:

> On 21/10/20 9:55 am, Lee Nelson wrote:
> >> Alternatively use a single nic with vlans, and break out to separate
> >> ports on a managed switch.
> >>
> > Yes, that could work too, but this is one side of a pfsync/carp
> > redundant firewall setup, so I want to keep it as simple as possible.
> 
> Silly question, what hardware are the USB NICs plugging into?
> 
> USB trades off determinism for hot-pluggability, and it seems a
> firewall, you absolutely do want an interface to appear in a specific
> location.  I'd be looking at something that plugs into the system
> peripheral bus somehow (PCIe, PCI, ISA, … etc).

Oh come on, you know the answer before you ask it.

Using cheap hardware and expecting free software developers to
pull magic out of their ass to make it solve unsolveable problems, and
produce a result as too as state of the art expensive hardware --- or
even cheaper hardware --- with DEDICATED PORTS -- it is madness.  We
can't do it.  And we said so.

And Lee gets it.  But do the rest of the thread participants?

I think it's fine for us as a community to humour the attempt for a bit,
but THEN THE DISCUSSION MIGHT AS WELL END, as the consequences of the
choice ARE WHAT THEY ARE.

You get what you paid for.  And we (OpenBSD) played no part in the
decision or the consequences, hotplug is what it is.

Can we end this discussion?


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