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From: Австин Ким <freen...@gmail.com>
Date: 7/21/19 10:09 (GMT-06:00)
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: OpenBSD Project
> On July 21, 2019 6:05:28 AM GMT+03:00, bkfuth <[…]> wrote:> > I have used
> OpenBSD, for years, in my computer security classes. I find> > it best suited
> for these classes. The governance has never been an> > issue. If you know
> what you are doing the OpenBSD community is a good> > one.> > Stephen Kolars>
> > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note� 4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone> > > >
> -------- Original message --------> > From: Ingo Schwarze <[…]>> > Date:
> 7/20/19 21:44 (GMT-06:00) > > To: freen...@gmail.com > > Cc:
> misc@openbsd.org > > Subject: Re: OpenBSD Project > > > > Hi,Avstin Kim
> wrote:> My question is, how is the OpenBSD Project> > governance
> structured;There is no formal structure and no> > "governance".In day to day
> business, code owners in parts of the system> > decidewhat is done (for
> example, espie@ in pkg_add(1), myself in> > mandoc(1),claudio@ in OpenBGPD,
> gilles@ in OpenSMTPd, jsing@ and beck@> > inLibreSSL, tj@ redgarding the
> website, and so on; in some areas,more> > than one person owns the code,
> sometimes up to a handful).In general,> > the people deciding ask themselves
> which is the besttechnical solution,> > and if there is consensus among
> developers, itis done.In the rare cases> > of serious disagreement that
> cannot be resolvedconsensually, or cannot> > be resolved without excessive
> delay ordiscussion, deraadt@ reserves the> > right to make a final
> decision,but that does not happen often.There is> > no core team and
> certainly, there are never any elections.There are no> > written rules
> whatsoever, and no introduction of anywritten rules is> > planned for the
> future. The OpenBSD foundationhas absolutely no say> > about any aspect of
> the OpenBSD project.None of all this is documented> > anywhere because it
> doesn't matterfor users of the system.If your> > choice of operating system
> depends on any kind of formalitiesrather> > than on technical quality,
> OpenBSD is not the project youare looking> > for.Yours, Ingo>> I can only
> add that ,from all the mailing lists I'm subscribed , misc@openbsd is \>
> the most active mailing list.>> This means alot for me, and I suspect for
> anyone else using openBSD.>> Best Regards,> Strahil NikolovTo everyone who
> took the time to respond, your responses were outstanding; if only a short
> and sweet additional page could be added to the main OpenBSD Project WWW site
> (e.g., under “Project Team” or “Developers") that just succinctly summarizes
> exactly what you all said. For “smaller” projects without formal governance
> I guess it all comes down to the people; I can see how if you have a
> dedicated core of really good, passionate developers formal by-laws and
> committees are superfluous, but then the question is how would that be
> sustainable over the long term other than just by manually and personally
> attracting and retaining the best on an ad hoc basis without a codified,
> structured process. But it seems to be clearly working here.Downloaded the
> macppc port of OpenBSD 6.5 to install on a couple IBM PowerPC 970/970MP-based
> Apple Power Mac G5 machines for a class project (I just need some decent,
> reliable, no-frills servers, but I wanted to try using something other than
> AMD64/x86-64-based machines for a change) with very low expectations (after
> trying to install the macppc port of a peer Noteworthy Excellent
> Tried-and-true BSD distribution which crashed immediately upon running
> ofwboot off the install ISO), but the installer Just Worked! I don’t
> understand how this project is able to maintain a working legacy macppc port
> with so few developers.All the best,Austin“If you want to change the future,
> start living as if you’re already there.” —Lynn ConwayI really appreciate
> the macppc developers! In my lab I have a cluster of 5 g5s, 24 g4 laptops, 7
> g4 towers, and 15 other ppc machines. They all run OpenBSD. Thanks to the
> macppc developers my students can benefit from their use. Thanks!
