Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from noise, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon%E2%80%93Hartley_theorem
Thanks, -- Raul On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 1:30 PM Brian Brombacher <br...@planetunix.net> wrote: > > Oh and if the implant is smart, it’ll detect you’re trying to find it and go > dormant. > > Even more good luck! > > > On Jul 2, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Brian Brombacher <br...@planetunix.net> wrote: > > > > Hardware implants go beyond just sending packets out your network card. > > They have transceivers that let agents control or snoop the device from a > > distance using RF. > > > > You need to scan the hardware with RF equipment to be sure. > > > > Good luck! > > > >>> On Jul 2, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Misc User <open...@leviathanresearch.net> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 7/2/2019 12:43 AM, John Long wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 10:07:59 +0300 > >>> Mihai Popescu <mih...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> I keep finding articles about some government bans against some > >>>> hardware manufacturers related to some backdoor for espionage. I know > >>>> this is an old talk. Most China manufacturers are under the search: > >>>> Huawei, ZTE, Lenovo, etc. > >>> It seems painfully obvious what's driving all the bans and vilification > >>> of Chinese hardware and software is that the USA wants exclusive rights > >>> to spy on you and won't tolerate any competition. > >>> Does anybody think maybe the reason Google and Facebook don't pay taxes > >>> anywhere might have something to do with what they do with all that > >>> info they collect? Is the "new" talk about USA banning any meaningful > >>> encryption proof of how seriously they take security and privacy? > >>>> What do you think and do when using OpenBSD on this kind of hardware? > >>> Lemote boxes are kinda neat but they're not the fastest in the world. > >>> It beats the hell out of the alternatives if you can live with the > >>> limitations. > >>>> Do you prefer Dell, HP and Fujitsu? > >>> Your only choice is probably to pick the least objectionable entity to > >>> spy on you. If you buy Intel you know you're getting broken, insecure > >>> crap no matter whose box it comes in. Sure it runs fast, but... in that > >>> case everybody is going to spy on you. > >>> /jl > >> > >> Assume everything is compromised. Don't trust something because someone > >> else said it was good. Really, the only way to test if a machine is > >> spying on you, do some kind of packet capture to watch its traffic until > >> you are satisfied. But also put firewalls in front of your devices to > >> ensure that if someone is trying to spy on you, their command and > >> control packets don't make it to the compromised hardware. > >> > >> Besides, subverting a supply a hardware supply chain is a difficult and > >> expensive process. And if there is one thing I've learned in my career > >> as a security consultant, its that no matter how malevolent or > >> benevolent a government is, they are still, above all, cheap and lazy. > >> And in a world where everything is built with the first priority is > >> making the ship date, there are going to be so many security flaws to be > >> exploited. So much cheaper and easier to let Intel rush a design to > >> market or Red Hat push an OS release without doing thorough testing and > >> exploit the inevitable remote execution flaws. > >> > >> Or intelligence agencies can take advantage of the average person's > >> tendency to laziness and cheapness by just asking organizations like > >> Google, Facebook, Comcast, Amazon to just hand over the data they gathered > >> in the name of building an advertising profile. > >> > > >