Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from noise,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon%E2%80%93Hartley_theorem

Thanks,

-- 
Raul

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 1:30 PM Brian Brombacher <br...@planetunix.net> wrote:
>
> Oh and if the implant is smart, it’ll detect you’re trying to find it and go 
> dormant.
>
> Even more good luck!
>
> > On Jul 2, 2019, at 1:24 PM, Brian Brombacher <br...@planetunix.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hardware implants go beyond just sending packets out your network card.  
> > They have transceivers that let agents control or snoop the device from a 
> > distance using RF.
> >
> > You need to scan the hardware with RF equipment to be sure.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> >>> On Jul 2, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Misc User <open...@leviathanresearch.net> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 7/2/2019 12:43 AM, John Long wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 10:07:59 +0300
> >>> Mihai Popescu <mih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I keep finding articles about some government bans against some
> >>>> hardware manufacturers related to some backdoor for espionage. I know
> >>>> this is an old talk. Most China manufacturers are under the search:
> >>>> Huawei, ZTE, Lenovo, etc.
> >>> It seems painfully obvious what's driving all the bans and vilification
> >>> of Chinese hardware and software is that the USA wants exclusive rights
> >>> to spy on you and won't tolerate any competition.
> >>> Does anybody think maybe the reason Google and Facebook don't pay taxes
> >>> anywhere might have something to do with what they do with all that
> >>> info they collect? Is the "new" talk about USA banning any meaningful
> >>> encryption proof of how seriously they take security and privacy?
> >>>> What do you think and do when using OpenBSD on this kind of hardware?
> >>> Lemote boxes are kinda neat but they're not the fastest in the world.
> >>> It beats the hell out of the alternatives if you can live with the
> >>> limitations.
> >>>> Do you prefer Dell, HP and Fujitsu?
> >>> Your only choice is probably to pick the least objectionable entity to
> >>> spy on you. If you buy Intel you know you're getting broken, insecure
> >>> crap no matter whose box it comes in. Sure it runs fast, but... in that
> >>> case everybody is going to spy on you.
> >>> /jl
> >>
> >> Assume everything is compromised.  Don't trust something because someone
> >> else said it was good.  Really, the only way to test if a machine is
> >> spying on you, do some kind of packet capture to watch its traffic until
> >> you are satisfied.  But also put firewalls in front of your devices to
> >> ensure that if someone is trying to spy on you, their command and
> >> control packets don't make it to the compromised hardware.
> >>
> >> Besides, subverting a supply a hardware supply chain is a difficult and
> >> expensive process.  And if there is one thing I've learned in my career
> >> as a security consultant, its that no matter how malevolent or
> >> benevolent a government is, they are still, above all, cheap and lazy.
> >> And in a world where everything is built with the first priority is
> >> making the ship date, there are going to be so many security flaws to be
> >> exploited.  So much cheaper and easier to let Intel rush a design to
> >> market or Red Hat push an OS release without doing thorough testing and
> >> exploit the inevitable remote execution flaws.
> >>
> >> Or intelligence agencies can take advantage of the average person's 
> >> tendency to laziness and cheapness by just asking organizations like 
> >> Google, Facebook, Comcast, Amazon to just hand over the data they gathered 
> >> in the name of building an advertising profile.
> >>
> >
>

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