On Tue, 14 May 2019, at 09:09, ULF wrote:
> If from one side is true that many modern interfaces (mostly M$, though)
> are made for people who know nothing about computing, from one another is
> clear that some good ones (in terms of usability) help the user to keep
> concentrated on his work.
> 
> On a mac, on a recent gnome, on a kde, etc. it's easier for a user to keep
> track of multiple jobs without thinking about the OS, but rather thinking
> about contents. It's a matter of fact that computers are mostly used to do
> things that have nothing to do with programming and sysadmin, and also
> developers here must, while programming/administering the machine, maybe
> write a letter to the insurance, browse 20+ pages while looking at a
> calendar (maybe shared) during a phone call, opening the accounting program
> for taxes and so on...
> 
> In 2019, doing all of the above with fvwm, twm, (whatever-tiny)wm not only
> feels awkward, but also time consuming and less flexible. The argument that
> one just has to type "command &" is not as valid as just clicking an icon
> when one of your hands is busy holding the phone or a document.

If one's window manager's configuration file is set up to provide shortcuts to 
all relevant applications, then there's no need to use a terminal for that.

> 
> And, btw, let's say it: fvwm looks like 70s/80s, it's full of charm for
> retrocomputing but it's pretty ugly to see in 2019. And many people prefer
> just right clicking on a picture to change background rather than finding
> which config file they gotta change and then change it. Because config
> files are good, but total lack of automatization
> for basic activies is just time consuming, not sexy. Not to speak about
> fonts, icons and, especially, different languages (I mean alphabets)
> managing.... just shifting to a non-latin keyboard becomes hell.

I think you have a point in there somewhere but I can't find it.

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