Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > > However I don't think shipping a > > different WM/DE is going to help. > > Back in 2010 or thereabouts, when I used OpenBSD on a laptop > regularly, OpenBSD offered a bunch of WM/DE's in its package manager. > That's a wonderful thing, because different people have different > workflow techniques. I assume OpenBSD still has several different > WM/DE's. > > I don't know whether OpenBSD has KDE or Gnome, and don't really care. I > kicked KDE off all my boxes in 2012 because it's it's a massively > entangled monolith. As far as Gnome, even if it *could* be used in the > absense of systemd, I view Gnome as a gateway drug to the > Freedesktop.org worldview of having every software strongly linked to > every other software, and I want no part of that noise. > > One point I didn't see in RFC's post is stability. When I used OpenBSD > back in 2010, subjectively it seemed more stable, more consistent, and > less surprising than any Linux I'd ever used (and of course than any > Windows I'd ever used). If my computer were just for web browsing, > social networking, email, and storing photos and videos, Ubuntu or Mint > would be stable enough. But the way I work, I often have over 50 > windows open. I can't afford the massive instability bestowed by "we do > it all for you" user interfaces.
Very good points being made here. I'm going to match those points -- and similar to everyone else -- misread what is being said, and agree we should choose *ONE* window manager and delete all the others, and force people into a single working model. Look, it is clear that is what everyone wants. I apologize for the group -- we got distracted by the bogus model of "lots of choice is good choice". We'll get started on that community requested goal immediately. And I can assure, we will succeed: over many years we have assembled an accompolished team of code deleters. Internally we'll make a quick decision about which window manager satisfies you all, delete the rest, and prepare for the mission of convincing you all that we are correct and you should all adapt to that choice or run Linux instead. Personally I am a twm fan, but similar to others in this conversation I'll be humble and limit my viewpoint to 80% validity, as long as kde or anything fancy like that doesn't stand a chance I'm open to any point of view. Thank you all for your input.
