And regardless, /usr/src/usr.bin/mail/main.c:95 unsets MAIL environment 
variable when an '-u' flag is present, and the problem I'm reporting persists 
even when I run

mail -u root

as root.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, at 7:29 AM, ivp...@eml.cc wrote:
> Yes, and I didn't change any defaults:
> 
> # set | grep MAIL
> MAIL=/var/mail/root
> MAILCHECK=600
> 
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, at 7:23 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 07:18:57AM -0800, ivp...@eml.cc wrote:
> > 
> > > I also tested on 6.4-release, and can confirm the same behavior.
> > 
> > Is you MAIL environment var set? 
> > 
> >     -Otto
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, at 7:13 AM, ivp...@eml.cc wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, at 6:03 AM, TronDD wrote:
> > > > > On November 8, 2018 1:39:13 AM CST, ivp...@eml.cc wrote:
> > > > > >Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I must be missing something obvious, but since installing 6.4-current
> > > > > >(on a few versions in a row), I can't get mail to read 
> > > > > >/var/mail/root.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >After logging in, I see:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>-------<
> > > > > >OpenBSD 6.4-current (GENERIC.MP) #425: Sun Nov 4
> > > > > >
> > > > > >[... skipped ...]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >You have mail.
> > > > > >thor# mail
> > > > > >No mail for root
> > > > > >thor# mail -f /var/mail/root
> > > > > >Mail version 8.1.2 01/15/2001.  Type ? for help.
> > > > > >"/var/mail/root": 0 messages
> > > > > >thor# ls -l /var/mail/root
> > > > > >-rw-------  1 root  wheel   3.9K Oct 20 00:37 /var/mail/root
> > > > > >thor# head /var/mail/root
> > > > > >From dera...@do-not-reply.openbsd.org Sun Nov 1 06:30:00 MDT 2018
> > > > > >Return-Path: root
> > > > > >Date: Nov 1 06:30:00 MDT 2018
> > > > > >From: dera...@do-not-reply.openbsd.org (Theo de Raadt)
> > > > > >To: root
> > > > > >Subject: Welcome to OpenBSD 6.4!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >This message attempts to describe the most basic initial questions 
> > > > > >that
> > > > > >a
> > > > > >system administrator of an OpenBSD box might have.  You are urged to
> > > > > >save
> > > > > >this message for later reference.
> > > > > >>------<
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I also remember that I had this problem since the first time I
> > > > > >installed 6.4-current on my new laptop.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I do receive local mail (e.g., from crontab) for a non-priveleged 
> > > > > >user
> > > > > >created during setup.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Any ideas of what might be going on?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Best,
> > > > > >ivpgbe
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's because the Welcome email that gets sent to root and the user 
> > > > > created during install is dated in the future.  It has the initial 
> > > > > planned release date of Nov. 1st.  Mail(1) can't seem to see into the 
> > > > > future.
> > > > 
> > > > Good catch - that explains why I would not see it after the install. 
> > > > But 
> > > > today is Nov 8 (as confirmed by date(1), and it still doesn't see it, 
> > > > even after I touch(1) the file. Should I report it as a bug? 
> > > > 
> > > > The mismatch between Nov 1 and the actual release is probably another 
> > > > bug. Should I report as well?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > 

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