On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, Solene Rapenne wrote:

emacs 25 has a X11 flavour -athena which do not use gtk, but you need
to build it from ports, there is no package for it.

And indeed I do that.

I thought that perhaps 21.4 is more stable, or less bloated ...

Interessting remains to know, what the reson was.

And I am tired that in some modes I cannot get emacs to stop
writing things (like indentation) that I do not type.

Rodrigo

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