On May 18, 2018 4:09:58 AM GMT+02:00, Ken M <k...@mack-z.com> wrote:
>In all honesty I wasn't thinking of the suggestion as a cautious one
>because of
>bloat. I think bootstrap minified and compressed is like 20k. I mean
>how big is
>the entire man page collection?

Well, bloat isn't only measured in bits and bytes either. 

/Alexander 

>
>I was more hesitant to make the suggestion because if there was ever a
>community
>that en masse browsed with js disabled I would think it would be this
>one.
>
>Ken
>
>On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 03:08:25AM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
>> Hi Ken,
>> 
>> Ken M wrote on Thu, May 17, 2018 at 08:50:53PM -0400:
>> 
>> > I will probably have to duck and run
>> > for suggesting javascript as the answer here...
>> 
>> Precisely.  :)
>> 
>> > But for the most part the modern industry standard to make pages
>> > scale well across many devices and screen orientations is to use
>> > a responsive design library, most notably bootstrap.
>> 
>> We are talking about a simplistic one-column layout here,
>> and avoiding that kind of bloat (in particular javascript)
>> is among the top four design goals, together with support
>> for hyperlinks, support for semantic annotations, and avoiding
>> gratuitous presentational differences when compared to terminal
>> output (just to avoid misunderstandings, not every difference
>> is gratuitous: for example, terminals naturally use fixed-width
>> fonts, HTML naturally uses proportional fonts).
>> 
>> But no, javascript is an even worse suggestion than the
>> original idea of "meta viewport".
>> 
>> Yours,
>>   Ingo

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