Hi, "Ingo Schwarze" <schwa...@usta.de> wrote: > Hi leo_tck,
Hold on a sec, that's not my nick. I'm provisionally using my bf's account (with permission!). Just saying since this will end up in the archives and it shouldn't be ascribed to him. You'll find my real nick at the bottom of my messages :) > This is not spam. It is an on-topic posting. Yes, the poster has enlightened me by private e-mail now. There's an OpenBSD 'track', apparently, woohoo! You really can't expect me to not consider a long, iterative, message, laden with buzzwords and sloppy English, advertising something, with *no* mention of anything distinctly on-topic whatsoever, spam. > Please refrain from insulting people, in particular those posting > rarely who may not be very familiar with OpenBSD and might be > mislead to think that such insults would be normal or acceptable > in an OpenBSD context. *cough* Theo *cough*. But no, I absolutely have no intention of representing OpenBSD. Since I didn't invoke any official capacity, didn't send mail from an OpenBSD.org address (obviously I don't even have one!), and put that little disclaimer at the top, it should've been, an be, clear that my reply was from me little self only. And from no-one else. > FOSDEM is a major conference about Free Software, arguably even the > major conference in Europe. OpenBSD as a free operating system. > OpenBSD developers have presented at FOSDEM in the past. I'm > actually considering to propose a presentation myself, and i'm > grateful for the heads-up. I suppose I should explain here that I'm not very much fonder of the 'free software' world than I'm of the 'proprietary crap' one. Not that I don't find the former approach infinitely superior, it's just that, from me POV, there's an increasing failure to live up to the ideals. But if you like this sort of thing, good luck w/ your presentation =) No hard feelings, really. > I consider FOSDEM a major opportunity for communication among > free operating systems that rarely talk to each other. The *BSD > conferences are no doubt useful too, but less suited to that > particular purpose. Yeah, after said private e-mail, I started to figure that the list of buzzwords was in fact a list of excuses to convince one's boss to pay for attendance. Y'know, I find it funny and appropriate when a local shop owner hangs a "closed for urgent technical reasons" sign when he's taken the day off to enjoy a barrel of homebrew beer with a friend. But if I'm right about those buzzwords, well, let's just say that the level and kind of deception in them appalls me. > While some of your questions may be interesting and some of your > criticisms might have a point, discussing most of them would be > off-topic on this list. A call for proposals for a major free > software conference is clearly on topic here; nitpicking on the > concept of the conference is not. Honestly, if it's not spam, the announcement should really be better worded, especially since the whole point of a conference is communication. The announcement doesn't really reflect that. Thanks for your enlightening response. I agree that this discussion is off-topic and thus propose that any further replies (from anyone) be sent by private e-mail. Sincerely, --schaafuit.