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On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Rupert Gallagher <r...@protonmail.com> wrote: >> being critical of decisions made > You don't get to make the decisions, >> since you aren't doing the work I can do the work. As a matter of fact, I >> build my servers from scratch, from the firmware all the way up to the >> automatic configuration of clients. It is hell, but I get what I need, and >> nothing more. Since I speak out of experience, I know well that cups >> dependency on avahi is noth a needless burden and a security hazard. The >> openbsd decision to make cups package dependent from avahi is opaque. Where >> can we read this decision? What is the evidence that supported it? Is this >> evidence still relevant? Why, oh why, the package maintainer(s) of cups >> resist the opportunity to make their own burden less heavy by removing >> needless parts? Are they on avahi's payroll? RG Sent from ProtonMail Mobile >> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> > So basically you >> are saying the ports developers, who have worked very > > hard, haven't >> built things exactly the way you want. > > Did I get that right? > > Nobody >> apparently cared about it (neither do I really). It's an idea to > be >> discussed (or not), not a proposal to have an answer right now. Shrug. > > >> By the way who are you? > > A happy fairly long time user. They keep using. >> But your mails are going beyond by being critical of decisions made. > > Are >> you proposing to write a diff which handles all the cases, or > > are you >> offloading a proposal on other people -- a proposal you came > > up with in >> the last hour or so? > > A couple of years ago or so, it doesn't matter. It >> was discussed > privately and in some forums/lists; and it wasn't me who >> came up with > this idea first, certainly. I discussed world peace in a bar >> once. > If would literally take a couple of if's in Makefile for a price of >> > A LOT of saved bandwidth and disk space. Of course it would quadruple > >> the number of packages. You don't get to make the decisions, since you >> aren't doing the work. > > You can seperate things, and a year down the line >> that seperation > > doesn't work anymore. Then it all has to be redone. > > >> This can happen with a build system, then it used CMake, now it uses > >> ninja. Or then it relied on GTK+2, now it uses GTK+3. Or Qt. Or Tk. > Or >> previous ./configure no longer exist. Lots of words. No acti...@openbsd.org>