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On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Rupert Gallagher <r...@protonmail.com> wrote:

>> being critical of decisions made > You don't get to make the decisions, 
>> since you aren't doing the work I can do the work. As a matter of fact, I 
>> build my servers from scratch, from the firmware all the way up to the 
>> automatic configuration of clients. It is hell, but I get what I need, and 
>> nothing more. Since I speak out of experience, I know well that cups 
>> dependency on avahi is noth a needless burden and a security hazard. The 
>> openbsd decision to make cups package dependent from avahi is opaque. Where 
>> can we read this decision? What is the evidence that supported it? Is this 
>> evidence still relevant? Why, oh why, the package maintainer(s) of cups 
>> resist the opportunity to make their own burden less heavy by removing 
>> needless parts? Are they on avahi's payroll? RG Sent from ProtonMail Mobile 
>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> > So basically you 
>> are saying the ports developers, who have worked very > > hard, haven't 
>> built things exactly the way you want. > > Did I get that right? > > Nobody 
>> apparently cared about it (neither do I really). It's an idea to > be 
>> discussed (or not), not a proposal to have an answer right now. Shrug. > > 
>> By the way who are you? > > A happy fairly long time user. They keep using. 
>> But your mails are going beyond by being critical of decisions made. > > Are 
>> you proposing to write a diff which handles all the cases, or > > are you 
>> offloading a proposal on other people -- a proposal you came > > up with in 
>> the last hour or so? > > A couple of years ago or so, it doesn't matter. It 
>> was discussed > privately and in some forums/lists; and it wasn't me who 
>> came up with > this idea first, certainly. I discussed world peace in a bar 
>> once. > If would literally take a couple of if's in Makefile for a price of 
>> > A LOT of saved bandwidth and disk space. Of course it would quadruple > 
>> the number of packages. You don't get to make the decisions, since you 
>> aren't doing the work. > > You can seperate things, and a year down the line 
>> that seperation > > doesn't work anymore. Then it all has to be redone. > > 
>> This can happen with a build system, then it used CMake, now it uses > 
>> ninja. Or then it relied on GTK+2, now it uses GTK+3. Or Qt. Or Tk. > Or 
>> previous ./configure no longer exist. Lots of words. No acti...@openbsd.org>

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