Hi Philip,

Thanks for your detailed explanation!


Maybe a stupid question, as you have mentioned,
"so the in-tree gdb is rapidly declining in utility already.", and
egdb seems a better gdb, why does OpenBSD still keep old in-tree gdb
rather than replacing it will new egdb?

Thanks in advance!
Best Regards
Nan Xiao


On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Philip Guenther <guent...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Nan Xiao <xiaonan830...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I find there are binutils and binutils-2.17 in gnu/usr.bin/ dirctory
>> of OpenBSD source code. What's the difference between them? When I use
>> binutils command, such as "ar", it comes from binutils or
>> binutils-2.17?
>
>
> If you examine the output from building OpenBSD you'll see that the only
> files installed from the gnu/usr.bin/binutils directory (which is binutils
> version 2.15) are gdb and its documentation.  That same build output will
> show that gas, GNU ld, strings, objdump, readelf, and the other 'binary
> utilities' are installed from the gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17 directory.
>
>
> If someone made gdb (a GPLv2 licensed version) build against binutils-2.17
> and submitted a diff to do so in tree and thus eliminate the need for the
> old 2.15 binutils directory, that would be a moderately useful chunk of
> work.  I saw "moderately" because the old GPLv2 versions of gdb don't
> understand newer versions of DWARF debugging information generated by clang
> and new gcc's, so the in-tree gdb is rapidly declining in utility already.
> Such a project, however, may be a good project for understanding tool chain,
> ELF, and build issue.  Not an easy task, but even if the attempt fails
> whoever tries will almost certainly learn in proportion to their tenacity in
> the attempt.
>
> On the other hand, you really need to have access to most of the archs on
> which OpenBSD builds in order to test the change.  An examination of the cvs
> logs for the gdb bits may be a first step to seeing what didn't work the
> last time someone (probably miod) tried to do that.
>
>
> Philip Guenther
>

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