2016-10-20 1:15 GMT+08:00 Ralph Siegler <rsieg...@rsiegler.org>:

> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:50:11 +0800, Mikael wrote:
>
> > 2016-10-19 23:18 GMT+08:00 Ralph Siegler <rsieg...@rsiegler.org>:
> >
> >> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:18:02 +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> >>
> >> > Director of the Power(8) Ecosystem & Alliances,
> >>
> >>
> >> > "It would be helpful to know where you are seeing requests for
> >> > OpenBSD
> >> on
> >> > Power and what applications on top of OpenBSD are being requested. We
> >> have
> >> > not seen any requests as of yet from our target clients. "
> >>
> >> I really don't think the eternal optimists here in openbsd.misc
> >> understand the real meaning behind her words, so I will be the cruel
> >> and heartless one that translates those kind and diplomatic words to
> >> Mikael into the common tongue.  What she was really saying was:
> >>
> >>  (colloquial vernacular for self-pleasuring as obtainable alternative
> to receiving IBM donations)
> >>
> > I see what you mean and I am unconvinced that you are correct about your
> > suggestion.
> >
> > They are a for-profit though. I guess we'll see over time how much their
> > heart is on their ecosystem (vs. only on individual large customers), as
> > in, if it is, then OpenBSD is very interesting for them, and if not,
> > not.
>
> Their ecosystem?
>
> closed source softwares including for x86-64 like Websphere, DB2, MQ,
> Domino, various compilers etc.  None of that will run on OpenBSD (maybe
> slim chance of getting some of it running on FreeBSD as kiddie science
> project but would be unsupported by IBM so no business would even
> consider that)
>
> Hardware platforms limited to Power ($11,000 and up), Z series ($60,000
> and up), LinuxOne (power with containers by usage, $5,800 a month and
> up)
>
> IBM storage
>
> IBM Services - tech agnostic  consulting
>
> I think they know  their ecosystem.  Not seeing anything for or related
> to OpenBSD in there.
>
>
Ralph,

My best understanding is that IBM have widened the scope of their Power
platform, to become something of a mainstream server platform.

This is why they founded the OpenPower foundation [1], and why they are
allying with lots of otherwise unrelated companies such as Tyan, and why
the Talos desktop is coming up.

I have not kept track of them in detail, these are my best guesses.

If that's their central strategy, OpenBSD is a natural part of that and
also it should be natural for them to donate some hw.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPOWER_Foundation
https://openpowerfoundation.org/

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