On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 04:30:39 +0300
li...@wrant.com wrote:
> 
> What is more important is the level of engineering information
> available from the manufacturer (PC Engines) web site including tech
> specs, manual, BIOS updates, accessories, enclosures, diag boards and
> also: Schematics!

I certainly dig schematics! Don't forget, they use coreboot.

> 
> This seems to be by far more friendly to both engineer & consumer
> users.
> 
> PC Engines APU2 product line
> [http://www.pcengines.ch/apu2b2.htm]
> 
> 1) How do the APU systems go as pricing to comparable systems from
> other similar (industrial class, desktop enclosure) manufacturers?

I have two APU2C4 boards.

The price is not bad, and the ALIX/APU boards are not loaded with
consumer-grade "ooh, aah" bullet-point rubbish, unlike some of the VIA
boards which are (quite worryingly) also marketed towards medical
devices.

I am just a little disappointed in the way the components used are
just the consumer/low-end commercial grade versions (0-70degC operating
temps, etc). However, it certainly saves cost!

In addition, the clips for the mSATA/mPCIe slots, given that the use of
metallic screw points would improve grounding to the devices and would
be a lot more robust and resilient against vibration; with screw posts,
there is the option of using rubber washers too. And, screw posts would
cost an order of magnitude less, considering the cost of assembly too.

> 
> 2) How is the OpenBSD experience on the APU systems, do they have
> serial RS232 console (serial BIOS), do they expose all the hardware
> to OpenBSD?

The serial (RS232) console is set up to use 115200 baud by default (I
am unsure if this is changeable), so make sure this is
in /etc/boot.conf:

stty com0 115200
set tty com0

I would in fact recommend writing "installXX.fs" directly to a USB, and
then mounting /dev/sd#a to edit boot.conf to add those lines in right
at the top, before installing. It makes life easier.

I have not had the opportunity to test the GPIO support though; the
watchdog timer is not supported by OpenBSD, so whatever you do, do not
enable the watchdog timer yet.

> 
> Thank you for providing valuable technical feedback on these what
> appears to be the smarter choice over the other low power devices.
> 

It is definitely the smarter choice; on average, I notice around 5-6W
consumption, although that does vary depending on load.

The header pitches are 2.54mm too; this makes it very easy to obtain
plugs to connect to these headers.

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