Ted Unangst,

Well, I don't think I need to articulate anymore why CGD ought to make 
it in. I already have stated my reasons, so I won't do it again. But 
there is something I'm lacking from you:

I think YOU need to articulate why CGD is not making it in. Why is the 
burden of proof on me? After all, YOU ported it in the first place! 
YOUr desire preceded mine. 

YOU thought using CGD was good long before I ever did. Was there some 
reason behind this? Was there reason behind then using svnd? Am I to 
think you're a man sans reason?   

You clearly think svnd is a better solution, but why? I'm sure you have 
some really good reasons. Perhaps if you _*share them with us, we will 
finally understand and stop bitching about it*_. 

If you take up the burden of proof, then you won't have to deal with 
pesky little threads such as this. Otherwise, if you continue with your 
typical behavior, I shall cast my vote of no confidence.

OpenBSD is cited by some people as psychotic--the code audits, the stack 
protection: ProPolice, W^R; secure by default, the development of 
OpenSSH, the constant vigilance... You tell us that svnd is good 
enough. Perhaps for you. Rather, the paper detaling the design of CGD 
speaks of crypto implementations strong enough to use on hard disks at 
the Los Alamos research labs (several of which went missing.) 
 
Where would OpenBSD be? if people said "it's good enough," rather than 
"lets do the best job we can do."   

I'm very impressed with the design of OpenBSD, even the selection of 
software in the base system rocks my socks. Yet, svnd seems like a 
blight on an otherwise perfect OS. 

Travers

On Tuesday 03 January 2006 14:37, Ted Unangst wrote:
> On 1/2/06, Travers Buda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You've made it very clear that CGD won't be imported into OpenBSD,
> > yet you've never explained why, or why you ported it in the first
> > place.
> >
> > Care to let us in on why? I expect your reply will be a short "no"
> > just like a few of your replys to this subject. For what it is
> > worth, I'm asking.
>
> Because, like everyone else, you've failed to pass the articulation
> test.
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=112534721521131&w=2

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