Just one more thing: for non-developers, if you think there's any sense in this idea I just described, please, some "seconding" and/or additions would be welcomed. Also some e-mails directed to fundrais...@openbsdfoundation.org would be great in this regard too. (Again: OpenBSD developers should *NOT* need to get involved in this discussion, this is between non-developers and the OpenBSD foundation).
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Michel Behr <michelb...@gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand, one of the reasons for the Foundation to avoid targeted > contributions is to preserve the independence of the project - in the > current model they are accountable for allocating the resources as they see > fit. So IMHO there is value in that model for that regard. On the other > hand, the fact that none of the donations is directed specifically to > compensate for the hard work of the developers (and more specifically > Theo's) gives the foundation the prerogative to, for example, have at the > donation page one donation account separate, specific for developers, with > a clear message that those resources would go directly to the developers > (or to one developer...), in contrast with the "standard" donation channel, > which funds only events, infrastructure, etc. It would a reasonable > exception. I think if this done with the same transparency things have > being managed so far, there's no problem. > > And by the way, this suggestion is mine, not Theo's (and I'm far from > being a developer!), so I'm cc'ing the foundations' e-mail address - I see > this as matter of interest to the foundation because it touches directly > their purpose of providing the administrative support for the project to > keep it moving forward - e.g. providing a channel through the donations > page for developers to receive direct contributions would permit them the > flexibility to dedicate even more time to the project. It would also be one > more "communication channel" for recognition to the developers high-quality > code that's been produced over the years. > > Anyway, just my $0.02... (I think this is a matter that's between the > non-developers community and the OpenBSD Foundation, Theo and the other > OpenBSD developers should not need to get involved on this discussion). > > Kind regards, > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> > wrote: > >> > > > Now to be clear Theo, are donation via the paypal on the donations >> page >> > > > are directly to you and you can do as you see fit, and/or only >> checks >> > > > would be best? >> > > >> > > Correct, as I see fit. I try to use it for the Project for things the >> > > Foundation doesn't fund. I declared it that way on the web site. I >> > > have not used it much for my own needs. >> > >> > I'd guess this has been thought of and just throwing in lame ideas >> > on the off chance it's of any use and maybe it's just extra site coding >> > work and there are legal complications, if not then are the people in >> > charge of the foundation website/operation privvy to this list? Is Bob >> > part of that? >> > >> > .... >> > I wonder if it would gain any traction if there was a separate donation >> > box and cheque address with a statement along the lines of The OpenBSD >> > project leader works full time and receives no support from donations >> > to the foundation. If you would like to also support The project >> > leader directly then you can do so here or by sending a cheque to. >> > >> > _______________Made up example, Don't send here________________ >> > >> > Theo De Raadt >> > The OpenBSD project leader >> > 8101 160 Street >> > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada >> > T5R 2G9 >> > _______________________________________________________________ >> > >> > Alternatively but perhaps more complex behind the scenes?.. a percentage >> > box so everytime someone makes a donation they can choose a percentage >> > of their donation to the foundation from 0%-?% that goes to support the >> > project leader. >> > >> > That way I guess the project leader could choose to waive it if the >> > foundation is ever in trouble financially should they wish so long as >> > the site foundation site discloses that possibility for legal reasons I >> > guess? >> >> We've heard numerous times that the OpenBSD Foundation avoids >> targetted contributions. I don't think what you suggest is the >> right method of solving this (essentially, splitting a pie).
