On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Christian Weisgerber
<na...@mips.inka.de> wrote:
> On 2015-07-20, Joel Rees <joel.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>[...]

> Being "willing to take a small hit on performance or
> price" does not magically will such alternatives into existence;
> it just makes you sound delusional.

Well, yeah, I am a dreamer, but I don't think I'm all that delusional
to think, for instance, that I could put some ARM hardware in a
lunchbox, attach a keyboard, display, an ethernet cable, a sata disk,
and a fan, boot up an OS, and run the typical office applications,
image editors, music players and editors, even Gramps. No Skype, I'm
sure, but that's not a loss to me.

Getting OpenBSD running on it would take a bit of planning in choosing
parts, to bring the amount of code that would have to be written down
to a reasonable level. Getting the X11 server code running is a
blocker, isn't it? But not a permanent one.

Just because that is presently a dream for me does not mean that I
should assume that no one interested in OpenBSD has the time and spare
money to do it. Maybe even I could do that much in another six months
or so.

(Ehrm, no. Not six months. Longer than that. Did I admit that I'm a dreamer?)

> And anybody considering OpenBSD on non-x86 be better prepared to
> pitch in with development, add support and fix problems.  If you
> just want to use it, you're better off with x86.

Agreed.

Although even x86 is no guarantee. I'm doing without wifi on this HP
pavilion because the controller is too recent for the present driver
in openbsd. And, yes, I'm trying to find time to work through the code
until I have enough confidence to start dragging code in from
kernel.org.

And I should be re-reading the code now instead of arguing with you. :-/

> (For instance, and getting vaguely back to topic, the Blade 150
> suffers both ohci(4) and gem(4) lockups if you hit the right usage
> pattern.  And we have tons of build logs from ports that fail to
> build on various archs.)

I guess what you're saying is that the OP should expect a really rough
road ahead, if looking to do desktop kinds of things on sparc
hardware. I don't think I'd want to argue with you there. You'd be the
one to know.

Still, saying x86 has won it all is going a little farther than I
wanted to sit quietly by and ignore.

Now I've said my piece and I'll shut up.

-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful when you look at conspiracy.
Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well:
http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/2011/10/conspiracy-theories.html

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