Thanks for the info and I expected someone to suggest this,
but I didn't really want to go all crazy. :)
I wanted to know if there was a secure one so I wouldn't have
to jump through all these kind of hoops.
Thanks anyway.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015, at 04:17 PM, dan mclaughlin wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 11:47:04 -0400 Jiri B <ji...@devio.us> wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 12:33:25AM -0400, Eric Furman wrote:
> > > I sometimes have to deal with PDF files (ugh) and all
> > > I need is the ability to view and print them, nothing
> > > fancy. With security in mind I would like to get opinions
> > > on the best one to use.
> > > Thanks.
> 
> hardly any existing software is written with security in mind, so...
> mitigation is the word. and since sometimes even the best coders may
> slip up...
> 
> > 
> > Run it chrooted under non-default (0) routing domain
> > and you should be in 99 % fine.
> 
> and running under it's own user as well.
> 
> some of these mitigation techniques and more have been discussed
> recently:
> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=142703553113760&w=2
> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=142637712203350&w=2
> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=142676615612510&w=2
> 
> the last thread is my experiments with ssh chroot jailing. if you
> decide to go the chroot route, you need to read that. you would
> have to do some additional work (eg set up a device) to get a
> printer working. there is also some info on using Xephyr. i use
> a jailed xpdf myself just as in the examples.
> 
> and instead of routing, i use a pf rule:
> 
>   block out log
>   pass out log quick on $intif proto tcp user { root, browse, 1000 }
>   pass out log quick on $intif proto udp user { root, browse, 1000 }
> 
> but you could just block the one user:
> 
>   block out log quick on $intif proto tcp user pdf
>   block out log quick on $intif proto udp user pdf
>   pass out
> 
> at the very least, you want to run it under it's own user, using
> 'ssh -X' and Xephyr.
> 
> > 
> > (I still can't figure out how to make apps in Xephyr
> > maximalized without help of a WM.)
> 
> many programs have command line options to control some of this.
> eg 'xpdf -fullscreen'. although that doesn't always give me the
> interface i want. but 'xpdf -geometry xXy' works too. i have
> scripts that syncronize the Xephyr geometry and the app's.
> 
> > 
> > j.
> > 
> 
> in sum, a dedicated unpriviledged user, using ssh -X and Xephyr, with
> a pf rule (as above), and maybe chroot. about the best you can do for
> any program. one of those threads is about systrace, but that might
> be more complicated to set up (haven't looked into it too much myself).

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