>On 11/02/14 00:51, Theo de Raadt wrote:
>>> On 2 November 2014 06:15, Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> wrote:
>>>> A "serial console" is a serial port on a machine exposing it's boottime
>>>> console.  OpenBSD cannnot use select a USB serial connector as a console
>>>> tty, no more than it can select some random serial pci card.  The logic
>>>> for finding the device happens too late.
>>>>
>>>> If this is the other way around, then the laptop is just doing serial.
>>>> What's console about it.  It is just talking serial, to something else
>>>> which is console.  You don't need the word console, nor do we need
>>>> to know the colour of the cable you choose.
>>>>
>>>> Naddy is precise.  You used the wrong words.
>>> Ah, okay. Thank you. But even if the laptop end of the setup wouldn't
>>> properly be called a serial console, do I understand correctly then
>>> that it would work to use it with a run-of-the-mill USB-to-serial
>>> adapter in the way I describe? Meaning, use it as a terminal (or
>>> terminal emulator, or technically, laptop, running OpenBSD, running a
>>> terminal emulat-- arrgh!). Anyway, do I understand correctly that it
>>> would work the way I expect, and that (my imprecise terminology
>>> notwithstanding) Patrick's reply is applicable?
>>>
>>> And further, just to make sure I'm really getting this, is it actually
>>> correct then to call the (bog standard) physical RS-232 port on the
>>> headless computer the serial console? Or am I still on the wrong
>>> track, and does a real, genuine, proper serial console involve custom
>>> hardware beyond a standard physical serial port?
>> That is a lot of words.  I do not understand your questions.
>>
>> Can a device which does serial console expose it's console over serial
>> to another device which does serial?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Because serial ports can talk to each other.
>>
>> Whatever you want, just try it.  Unbelievable..
>>
>
>
>Sounds like the question, in a very around about way, is can you use a 
>laptop or desktop with a USB to serial converter with  a given terminal 
>program to communicate with an OpenBSD machine that uses a serial console.
>
>The answer is yes and I fail to see why this is such a problem.


It is a problem because he doesn't have the hardware in the first
place!



So I have a question.  I don't wood work, and I don't have any wood,
and I don't have any wood working tools, but if I was to, er, what is
the word -- is it "lathe"?  That spinny thing?  What happens if my
power cable gets unplugged while I am doing that.  Do I just plug it
in?  Thanks.  I was curious.  So excited to hear the answers.

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