On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini
<grazzol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 20-10-2014 21:52, Ian Grant wrote:
>>
>> How else can one protect a system from DoS attacks, other than by
>> concealing it some way? And what is cryptography if it's not
>> concealing the meaning of a communication in some way?
>
> Oh my. DoS can be mitigated. You could never "protect" a system. Even if
> there isn't any port open, they can flood you uplink, even if you stop
> sending FIN or ACK. There is UDP. Cryptography is not just concealment. It's
> integrity. It's authentication (in some cases). So it's the only way to be
> sure your message wasn't modified because the math behind it is solid.
>>
>> Sure they can see it, but that's not going to tell them where it went
>> next. So they can analyse all the traffic and what they learn from
>> that won't be worth knowing half an hour later.
>
> Man, real time traffic analysis. We told you so many times. They'll learn it
> right away. Because they can see ALL traffic in real time. Simple as that.

You don't read what I write. I said the info won't be worth having
half an hour later. Because the service access point will have moved.
I didn't dispute the real-timeness of the traffic analysis.

>>   I live in Bolivia, and
>> I want to implement something like this here, so that the Bolivian
>> government can have secure communications within Bolivia, and across
>> her borders.
>
> I live in Brazil. And I'm aware of the situation of many countries in South
> America, ours included. If you want that, please tell them to use known and
> proven cryptography solutions such as Tor, IPSEC, Off the record messaging,
> etc. Do not reinvent the wheel, because it will only make their traffic
> stand out even further.

Thanks for your "advice" but I will do exactly what I think is the
right thing to do.

>> I can make and a maintain any modifications to OpenBSD that I please.
>
> Of course you can. But if you go along these lines of reinventing the wheel
> and security through obscurity you'll never get your contributions into it.

I am not trying to become an OpenBSD developer. I just want to use for
a real project.

Ian

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