On 05/08/14 23:41, Philip Guenther wrote:
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:14 PM, STeve Andre' <and...@msu.edu> wrote:

On 05/08/14 22:43, Philip Guenther wrote:

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:59 PM, STeve Andre' <and...@msu.edu> wrote:

  Twice now in three or so weeks, I've gotten a panic on my -current_amd64
W500 laptop.  I've updated my tree several times during this time, and
have
not seen other problems besides the known acpi heat problem.

  Uh, what was the date of the cvs update of your kernel build when they
started?  What was the cvs update date of your kernel before *that*?
  (I.e,
what's your best estimate of the window in which the change to the kernel
which triggered the panic occurred?

(What, you don't keep a log of the timestamps of your kernel
updates+builds?  Doesn't everyone?)

Actually, I do keep past kernels so I have the build date for them.
I *thought* I had some notes on when this started but I am
ashamed to see that I didn't put them in a safe place.

Well, make your best, but conservative estimate of the window in which it
started.  ("Certainly after _that_ kernel; not sure if before _this_ kernel
but certainly before this+1...")

This first occurred after I created an April 16th kernel.  I'm
pretty sure of that.


I have both firefox and chrome running but I'm getting the feeling that
things
get more weird as I use lots of tabs in chrome.

  You're pushing the vm subsystem enough to page.  Since you have 8GB, I
wonder if you've raised yourkern.bufcachepercent, thus pushing on it
harder.

Nope, I try to avoid the knobs when possible.  It's been at 20%
ever since (bob?) raised it to 20%.

Ok.  I guess it's just memory pressure from chrome.



I don't think I'm swapping?  At least I haven't seen top tell me that.

...In the past (like a year+) ago, there were times when chrome
went crazy with memory and I did swap.  But chrome has gotten
better--I don't think I've seen it do that for some time now.

Heh, the backtrace starts from "uvm_pageout" so yes, it decided to page

*DUH*.  sigh.  Still recovering from Penguicon or something.  Well,
that would be consistent with chrome's rabbid usage of memory
from time to time.

I'm going to test stuff after a rebuild of the world, re Ted's comments.

something out.  :-)



  I'm not sure how well I can pin this down.  If I go too far back with
an older kernel I'll be out of sync with userland.  Any suggestions
on how to test this more?

I don't recall any kernel ABI changes in the window, but hold off for now.
  Eyes more familiar with the involved subsystem may consider the backtrace
you gave (thanks!) enough.


Philip Guenther


--STeve

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