On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 12:53:32PM +0100, Pete Vickers wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Dunno if OBSD & your ISP supports it, but maybe try running multi- 
> link ppp over the links, to 'bond' them into a single virtual  
> interface which routing could point at...
> 

sppp(4) does not support multilink ppp.

> Alternatively if you are hosting, presumably most of your trafffic is  
> orginating 'inbound' from the 'net, and thus your ISP will decide  
> which physical link to send the packets down - a route-to/reply-to on  
> your end should just keep the ip 'conversation' on that pipe.
> 
> If most of your traffic is 'outbound' originated, (e.g. just users  
> surfing all day long), then you could (and this is just an ugly hack  
> to get you going), still use openbgp to announce your prefixes, but  
> don't couple FIB with kernel table, and instead have a script  
> periodically parse a 'bgpctl sh routes...or..suchlike' output, and  
> then add 25% to each interface via 'route add w.x.y.z/nn via sanmm'.  
> Obviously tweaks like polling i/f stats to measure individual  
> utilisation and biase the number of prefixes sent to each, are possible.
> 

Uhm. I think you switched the two. hosting has mostly outbound traffic
while end user cause inbound traffic.

> Like I said, a hack, but might get you out of a tight spot...
> 
> what about multiple bgp sessions ?
> 

Wont help much unless you start some real evil filtering to balance the 4
t1 links.

> /Pete
> 
> 
> On 30. nov. 2005, at 07.26, andrew fresh wrote:
> 
> >Hijacking this thread, cuZ now I am worried . . . .
> >
> >>On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:46:56PM -0800, David Ulevitch wrote:
> >>>I'd like to hear how people are using OpenOSPFd
> >
> >I will prbly use OpenOSPFd in the future, but at the moment, my  
> >question
> >is about using OpenBGPd and multiple lines from the same provider.
> >
> >I am getting 4 T1s from a single provider.  Issues with local telco
> >"facilities" for T3's and other things are causing me problems with
> >getting anything different.
> >
> >I am going to end up with something like this:
> >san0-\
> >san1-\\ all connected to a single provider
> >san2-//
> >san3-/
> >
> >Now, I assume I will have a single BGP session with them.  (I have  
> >very
> >little information for lines that are supposed to be installed  
> >tomorrow
> >morning at 9am).
> >
> >Right now I have a cisco 3640 that has 2 T1's from AT&T and 2 from
> >Sprint, it has enough trouble with those which is why I want to  
> >replace
> >it with an OpenBSD box.  I am going to have an iBGP session with the
> >3640 and an eBGP session with my new provider.
> >
> >I will be adding 20Mb over ethernet at some point in the fairly  
> >near future
> >(if they can ever get it installed) and will hopefully be getting  
> >rid of
> >the 3640 at that point.
> >
> >The OpenBSD router will not be doing any NAT, it will be passing  
> >public IPs.
> >
> >
> >This is what has me worried:
> >On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:33:07PM +0100, Claudio Jeker wrote:
> >>There is no kernel support for multipath routing.
> >
> >
> >I want to load balancing across those 4 T1s and it is sounding like I
> >will not be able to do that and will have to figure out how to get  
> >these
> >4 new lines into my old cisco router.
> >
> >Unfortunately trunk(4) doesn't work with san interfaces :-( and  
> >that is
> >how it looked possible to do the bonding/inverse muxing that I was  
> >going
> >for.
> >
> >$ ifconfig trunk0 trunkport san0 trunkport san1
> >ifconfig: SIOCSTRUNKPORT: Protocol not supported
> >
> >It would be really kewl to use the trunk(4) interface for the BGP
> >peer address, since it now does failover, it would be up as long as  
> >any
> >individual lines were up.  It would be even kewler if it would be able
> >to change the weighting on that interface depending on the number of
> >lines in the trunk, but I guess I am dreaming again.
> >
> >I guess I am looking for something like 'ip load-sharing per- 
> >packet' in
> >cisco terms.  But my real question is:  How do I get OpenBSD to treat
> >those 4 T1s as a single line and share the load across them?
> >
> >or, how do I get a reasonable approximation from OpenBSD?
> >
> >
> >Also, with those 4 T1s, I want to make sure that in case any of the  
> >4 go down,
> >the BGP session will stay up.  With a cisco box, I just bind the  
> >session
> >to a loopback address, add routes for each interface and it will  
> >choose
> >one of the interfaces that is up to get to the destination.  How do  
> >I do
> >this with OpenBSD?
> >
> >Will the BGP session just work when I solve the load balancing issue?
> >
> >or do I have to do weird things with ifstated(8) (like 16 states  
> >for the
> >4 lines and lots of route add/delete statements)?
> >
> >or something with 'route-to' in pf?
> >http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=112831360613745&w=2
> >
> >This seems to work in my test environment:
> ># t1s is an interface group containing all of the links to that  
> >provider
> >pass out on t1s route-to { \
> >        (san0 10.35.0.2) \
> >        (san1 10.35.1.2) \
> >        (san2 10.35.2.2) \
> >        (san3 10.35.3.2) \
> >} round-robin keep state
> >pass in  on san0 reply-to (san0 10.35.0.2) keep state
> >pass in  on san1 reply-to (san1 10.35.1.2) keep state
> >pass in  on san2 reply-to (san2 10.35.2.2) keep state
> >pass in  on san3 reply-to (san3 10.35.3.2) keep state
> >
> >
> >l8rZ,
> >-- 
> >andrew - ICQ# 253198 - JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     Proud member: http://www.mad-techies.org
> >
> >BOFH excuse of the day: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host:
> >    Connection refused
> 

-- 
:wq Claudio

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