On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 08:30:05PM -0600, J Moore wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:29:36AM -0700, the unit calling itself Spruell, > Darren-Perot wrote: > > From: frantisek holop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > hmm, on Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 05:32:54PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek said that > > > > It's even a FAQ: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#wwwnotstd > > > > > > at least remove > > > "We welcome new contributors," > > > because that is clearly not true. > > > > Sure, should be something like "we welcome worthwhile contributions". Helps > > enforce the point that just because you think your contribution is > > meaningful doesn't mean it really is. > > > > Why don't people catch on that this isn't a community-driven project? > > > > DS > > > If you're not "community-driven", then please explain why you have a > product offered to "the community", and a public forum that is in "the > community".
because one can step out of the "community" and into the "developers" group. BTW, this is not done by posting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Also please explain how you avoid the apparent hypocrisy of soliciting > contributions from "the community", and then in the next breath tell > "the community" that they're irrelevant. the difference between "driven" and "irrelevant" is quite large. this type of distortion is quite the mark of a troll. > And what were your expectations when you joined a project that produced > a product that real users from "the community" were going to use? And > that "the community's" opinions and criticisms of this product would be > discussed in an open forum? who is actually stopping you from your "discussion"? they may be telling, asking, and begging you to give it up, but obviously, it is not stopping you. > Did you expect that "the community" would all get starry-eyed, and say > to you, "Oh! It's everything I dreamed of; it's perfect! Thank you, I > can think of nothing more to add." no one is telling you not to make suggestions. they may be telling you to give up on a "discussion" that isn't going anywhere, though. > Why don't you catch on that this is not how the world works? what is not the way the world works? every point that has been made in this "discussion" has been given it's due consideration, and I still have not seen a single line of diff from anyone in this "discussion", but lots and lots of vagueness and trollesque accusations from the "community". yeah, great "community". this is how the world works: ignore the whiners, they offer nothing useful. either the whiners will realize their folly and actually do something useful or they will continue to whine. maybe they will do something they think is useful, but ultimately it isn't and will be rejected. now, they can go back to whining about how their work is rejected, or they can realize their folly and again go back to trying to do something useful, etc, etc. eventually, they will decide to just be a whiner, or they will do something useful. BTW, deciding to quit whining _is_ doing something useful. -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
