On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Nick Holland
<n...@holland-consulting.net> wrote:
> On 11/17/13 12:53, Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY wrote:
>> Le 2013-11-17 20:27, dmitry.sensei a écrit :
>>> What about 1Tb disk? Is CHS mode correct for this disks?
>>
>> I done the test using Virtualization.
>> Not tried with a physical hard drive 1 TB.
>
> The smallest common non-SSD laptop drive is probably around 500G now,
> and 1TB is routine on desktops.  At least some (many? most?) of these
> machines are now shipping with UEFI boot, and a lot of them will be
> pre-loaded with Windows, with minimal resources to reload Windows from
> scratch.
>
> The target (and worst-case) audience is the person who bought a laptop
> or desktop pre-loaded with Windows 8, and wants to install OpenBSD with
> as little disruption to the existing system as possible.
>
> I appreciate the efforts, but we need something more comprehensive.

Another issue that needs to be covered is the system clock. OpenBSD
wants UTC, Windows wants local time. There is a FAQ item that explains
how to get OpenBSD to deal with local time. In my Windows/OpenBSD
setups, I try to go the other way, setting the clock with OpenBSD
(which sets it to UTC) and trying to convince Windows to deal with it.
There is a registry change to get Windows to work with a hardware
clock set to UTC. This works correctly with Windows 7; see

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Time#UTC_in_Windows

As noted in this article, this does not work properly with XP or
Vista.  Also, it is important to take the suggestion to turn off the
ntp client in Windows seriously. Windows should be made as passive as
possible with respect to the hw clock; let OpenBSD take care of
keeping the clock accurate by running ntpd there.

I do not have any personal experience with Windows 8 and UTC. A little
googling turns up messages that say the registry hack works the same
as with 7, others that report problems. I suspect, but do not know,
that the people that had problems failed to turn off the ntp client.
Windows 8 vs. a UTC clock needs to be tested. I will try to do this
when I re-arrange the machine described below.

>
> Sounds like I need to go buy a modern Windows system. :-/

You'll love it. I recently bought a Thinkpad T430 that came with
Windows 8. You can easily find out what the weather is in Mumbai, but
figuring out how to run an application is a research project. if the
phrase "what were they thinking?" hadn't been invented prior to
Windows 8, it would have happened shortly after the release. I did an
as-delivered backup (in case I need to sell the machine) and blew the
whole thing away with Arch Linux (OpenBSD doesn't support the wireless
card; I've got another card coming that is known to work).

/Don

>
> Nick.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> 17.11.2013 20:20 пользователь "Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY"
>>> <open...@e-solutions.re> Ð½Ð°Ð¿Ð¸Ñ Ð°Ð»:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I just tested this. It works nice for me.
>>>>
>>>> I have a Windows 8.1 on a hard drive 15 GB (A full one partition).
>>>> So i want to install OpenBSD 5.4 and have multiboot.
>>>>
>>>> -1- Reduce the disk using disk management (MMC snap)
>>>> i reduced Windows partition, i have now a second partition 1GB.
>>>> Put OpenBSD 5.4 CD, and reboot.
>>>>
>>>> -2- Install OpenBSD using CHS (Be careful!)
>>>> OpenBSD is now installed, eject cd, and reboot to windows
>>>> # fdisk -e 3
>>>>
>>>> -3- Download the tool dd for windows
>>>> http://www.chrysocome.net/dd [1]
>>>> Unzip dd-0.6beta3 and do :
>>>>
>>>> open "cmd" as administrator and do:
>>>> dd --list
>>>> # this will list device (we are looking for partition 2 (openbsd)
>>>>
>>>> dd if=\?DeviceHarddisk0Partition2 of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1
>>>> # This record OpenBSD PBR
>>>> Copy the file openbsd.pbr to the root c:
>>>>
>>>> -4- Modify boot.ini using bcdedit
>>>> In a cmd console (need administrator rights)
>>>> bcdedit /create /d "OpenBSD 5.4" /application boot sector
>>>> # copy the identifier and paste it to the 4 following lines
>>>> # For me, identifier is : {0eae31b8-4f98-11e3-8260-00264aa3d5ac}
>>>>
>>>> bcdedit /set {0eae31b8-4f98-11e3-8260-00264aa3d5ac} device boot
>>>> bcdedit /set {0eae31b8-4f98-11e3-8260-00264aa3d5ac} path openbsd.pbr
>>>> bcdedit /set {0eae31b8-4f98-11e3-8260-00264aa3d5ac} device
>>>> partition=c:
>>>> bcdedit /displayorder {0eae31b8-4f98-11e3-8260-00264aa3d5ac}
>>>> /addlast
>>>>
>>>> -5- Reboot, you re done!
>>>> As Dmitri said, windows 8.1 load graphical before you have the boot
>>>> choice.
>>>> And when you choose OpenBSD, the box reboot and load OpenBSD.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps!!
>>>> If you want i can do a better how-to with snapshots, and put it on
>>>> the web.
>>>> Or contribute to the FAQ!*
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Wesley MOUEDINE ASSABY
>>>> http://www.mouedine.net [2]
>>>
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> ------
>>> [1] http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
>>> [2] http://www.mouedine.net

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