On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 07:01:35AM +0100, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote:
> Marc Espie said:
> > You could point the guy at the FAQ, with caveats since the FAQ *doesn't
> > cover his specific case*.  But your way of phrasing your answer is not
> > a polite way to put it, and it's completely unjustified !
> 
> FAQ never covers one's specific case - it covers general case and has to
> be applied to the situation. Windows 7 instructions work for Windows 8,
> and before asking on mailinglist OP should have tried it. If it failed,
> his query should have been:
> 
>   I tried to set up dualbooting Windows 8.1 with OpenBSD following the
>   advice for Windows 7 from FAQ 4.9, but at the step *N* (command *cmd*)
>   it failed. Did anyone have success with setting up Windows 8 and
>   OpenBSD to play together in dualboot?

Give the poster the benefit of the doubt !

His question was not answered by the FAQ. I would never *ever* point somebody
to a document when the answer to his question was *not* in the document.

(I've been known to lurk in misc@ just so I could fix Xr in manpages and
whatnot so that next time, people have no excuse).

> Instead we got a general query *before* any action.
> 
> Keep in mind that potential risk boiled down to wasted space on the hard
> drive, which could be easily reclaimed for OS the OP would prefer if
> dualboot was impossible.

Oh really ? you've never managed to put an OS out of commission by trying
to multiboot ? you've never had a so-called install program just reclaim
all of your hard-drive ?

esp. with Windows where it can be *very* tiresome and difficult to track
all the pieces you need to reinstall (especially with recent OEM stuff
which does not even provide you with any boot media!)


I'll put it another way: STOP SCARING NEWCOMERS FROM ASKING LEGITIMATE
QUESTIONS!

If it's in the faq, and easy to find, then *FINE*, flame away.

But if it's not, SHUT THE FUCK UP, or go improve the faq.

I want to be able to keep skimming over misc@ and figure out
difficulties newcomers will have because our 
faq/manpages/cross-reference system is not 100% foolproof.

You guys who say windows 8.1 is easy are *all welcome* to write
the necessary information for the FAQ.

Dealing with:
- UDFI and legacy mode
- UPT
- correct boots
- other gotcha besides the "windows by default switches to gfx mode".

I see about ZIP about all that in the current FAQ.

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