In general I really like and appreciate all that is done by developers with
OpenBSD.  The OS is stable and it works well, and shipping it with X
already functional is a big help, especially on older boxes.  Because to
compile xorg with this old sparc box under FreeBSD was taking > 24 hours
and it still was not done.


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Gregor Best <g...@ring0.de> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:06:10AM -0400, Richard Thornton wrote:
> > I am curious - given that OpenBSD ships each RELEASE with X , but
> > applications like Firefox will not work without installing another DE,
> > [...]
>
> That is not true. I ran Firefox and Chrome on a clean OpenBSD 4.9
> installation when it was released and I have been able to since then,
> and I find it hard to believe it was different before.
>
> > [...]
> > XFCE; why not ship OpenBSD with the basic X, but with the necessary
> > libraries to allow FireFox to run and other applications like R to output
> > graphics?  Also why not go ahead and ship with Firefox?  The disk would
> > still be within the size of a standard CD.
> > [...]
>
> Installing Firefox with pkg_add adds the required libraries
> automatically. If it does not, that's a bug in the port that should be
> reported.
>
> Adding Firefox to the base system would be a very bad idea. It is a huge
> load of code that needs to be maintained and not everyone uses Firefox.
> What if I want Chrome instead? Add that to base? What about dillo?
> netsurf? Why not add OpenOffice while we are at it?
>
> --
>     Gregor Best

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