On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 10:02:46PM +1100, Alex Strawman wrote:
> > Traffic shouldn't even be getting OUT on the backup in this situation.
> 
> i agree - there is no correct solution without using an ip addr for
> each real interface.

> would be nice to for example use an external ntp server to sync with,
> but unless it uses another route (rather than ip-less carp'd
> interface), it cannot (without dodgy work-arounds).

Assuming you are also using pfsync, that means you've got another
interface that directly connects both firewalls.  Assign normal,
non-multicast addresses to those physical pfsync interfaces and ensure
that you can pass traffic between the two.  Configure pf on both boxes
to NAT traffic out over its external carp'd IP address when it is coming
in on $pfsync_if from $pfsync_net.

This allows your carp backup to still have outbound net so things like
NTP, mail and external DNS lookups still work.  Yes, there are ways you
could run these and other various services internally but there may be
reasons you cannot do this.  In the end, having outbound connectivity
for an otherwise unreachable host is a good thing, IMO.  

The catch here is that when the backup carp host is a backup, its
routing table must be aware that its route is no longer out over the
carp'd interface, but rather over your pfsync interface and the
receiving end is going to nat for you.  There may be other ways to
accomplish this (ospf, perhaps), but I went with ifstated.  

In my case, carp5/em5 on each box points upstream and each box has
a single external IP address assigned to it.  The two boxes each have
the same two failover upstream gateways (not under my control -- a.b.c.d
and w.x.y.z).  Yes, this setup is different than yours, but it should
give you enough to help you figure out the routing bit.

The config below is for the backup carp host.  A similar one exists for
the master (all that is different is that the primary/secondary routes
are different and the pfsync IP to route to is different (.3 vs .2)).

Pretty?  Depends who you ask.  The right solution?  Likely not, but it
got me out of a hole that I needed a way out of quickly,  and it may
help you too.

-jon


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init-state wan_master 
wan_carp_up = "carp5.link.up"
wan_carp_init = "carp5.link.unknown"
wan_iface_up = "em5.link.up"
wan_primary_route_up = '"ping -q -c1 -w1 a.b.c.d 2> /dev/null 1> /dev/null" 
every 2'
wan_secondary_route_up = '"ping -q -c1 -w1 w.x.y.z 2> /dev/null 1> /dev/null" 
every 2'



state wan_master {
   init {
      run "echo WAN master at `date` | mail -s 'WAN master change' \
      [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
   }

   # probably just came up.  give things a chance to sync
   if ($wan_carp_init)
      run "sleep 5"

   if (! $wan_carp_up)
      set-state wan_slave
   if ($wan_primary_route_up)
      set-state primary_route 
   if (! $wan_primary_route_up) && ($wan_secondary_route_up)
      set-state secondary_route
   if (! $wan_primary_route_up) && (! $wan_secondary_route_up)
      run "echo THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN!"
}

state wan_slave {
   init {
      # simple.  drop the default route and route over $SYNC_IF
      run "route change default 192.168.0.2"
      run "echo WAN slave at `date`  | mail -s 'WAN slave change' \
      [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
   }

   # if our link(s) come up, become the master 
   if ($wan_carp_up)
      set-state wan_master 
}

state primary_route {
   init {
      run "route change default a.b.c.d"
      run "echo Using primary route at `date`  | mail -s 'Primary route change' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
   }

   # if our link(s) go down, become the slave
   if (! $wan_carp_up)
      set-state wan_slave

   if (! $wan_primary_route_up)
      set-state secondary_route
}

state secondary_route {
   init {
      run "route change default w.x.y.z"
      run "echo Using secondary route at `date`  | mail -s 'Secondary route 
change' [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
   }
   # if our link(s) go down, become the slave
   if (! $wan_carp_up)
      set-state wan_slave

   if (! $wan_secondary_route_up)
      set-state primary_route
}

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