On 01/12/13 09:19, Paolo Aglialoro wrote:
Sorry for fwd ur mail in list Scott, didn't notice it was in pvt.

As for the tyre comparison, I agree with you Nick. Better getting your
hands dirty than being laughed at. Which is btw what I did in that nasty
event. But I also remember the cold sweat out of it.

I don't think anyone ever forgets their first time being dropped into single-user mode. While it's a bit of a shocker, what really makes the blood run cold is when you realize there's no vi(1) to fix a borked config. I think it was after the second time I screwed up my fstab that I broke down and learned the basics of ed.

The timing of you bringing this up is funny to me. I have a build box that I've been screwing around with lately and sometimes I'll copy a handful of backup files from my old /etc/ directory onto the new install. And of course I always forget to tweak the fstab.

In the last week alone I've found myself in single-user mode at least three times, only instead of fear/sweating, I'm kicking myself (while using ed(1) to fix my fstab) for forgetting again.

I mean, "plus" instead of "versus", when space is enough, considering that
nowadays vi is a widespread standard too (can't think of a modern unix
distro without it), shouldn't be asking for the impossible :)
(basically not opening a race for "I want this tool too", but reasoning
about an update of survival tools)


FWIW, I couldn't care less if vi(1) is added. In fact, if it _does_ get added, I'll probably forget it's there and continue using ed(1) like normal anyway.

PS:  Good analogy Nick.

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Scott McEachern

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