> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?
> From: Jan Stary <h...@stare.cz>
> Date: Mon, October 22, 2012 4:54 pm
> To: ch...@bennettconstruction.us
> 
> 
> On Oct 22 14:10:52, ch...@bennettconstruction.us wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?
> > > From: Jan Stary <h...@stare.cz>
> > > Date: Mon, October 22, 2012 3:20 pm
> > > To: ch...@bennettconstruction.us
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Oct 22 09:31:24, ch...@bennettconstruction.us wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject: Re: Problem with server upgrade, upgrade or hardware failure?
> > > > > From: Jan Stary <h...@stare.cz>
> > > > > Date: Mon, October 22, 2012 11:10 am
> > > > > To: ch...@bennettconstruction.us
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Oct 22 08:02:04, ch...@bennettconstruction.us wrote:
> > > > > > I did an update to my remote server using the ssh method, since I 
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > not have Java built
> > > > > 
> > > > > Have you properly aligned the quanizicants before?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ha Ha,
> > > > 
> > > > I couldn't find anything on Google except diff's for this. Unhelpful.
> > > 
> > > diffs for what?
> > > 
> > > Srsly, what are you trying to do? What is "the ssh method"?
> > > Why are you upgrading in the first place?  To have java installed?
> > > You don't need to upgrade for that.
> > > 
> > > > The server has been running since early 2007, so it seems reasonable
> > > >  that a reboot, including several hard reboots might bring up a hardware
> > > >  failure.
> > > 
> > > Why?
> > > 
> > > > These are unmanaged servers, so unless I decide that the hardware is
> > > > broken, I have to solve the problem myself. Since I can't get F'ing
> > > > firefox35 to work, I'm a little pissed!
> > > 
> > > So, you are running firefox35 on "unmanaged servers"?
> > > 
> > > Seriously, you message doesn't give a hint
> > > what you are trying to do in the first place and why.
> > > 
> > > What are you doing?
> > > Why are you doing it?
> > > What problems are you having with that?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I guess that is why no one has replied.
> > 
> > I have a remote server for my websites and PostgreSQL databases for my
> > business.
> > I used the http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade51.html#upgrade:
> > Upgrading without install kernel (modified to -current files)
> > This is NOT the recommended process. Use the install kernel method if at
> > all possible!
> > 
> > I have successfully used this method (for -current, never release)
> > several times
> > 
> > I hadn't built Java addon for firefox35 recently because I always run
> > -current or close to it.
> 
> This where you are losing me.
> You said it was a reopte server running webistes and PostgreSQL.
> What does firefox35 and a java addon have to do with that?
> 
> 
> > I built Java,
> 
> On a PostgreSQL server? Why?
> 
> > but I cannot get any (including a slightly older version)
> > firefox35 to work.
> 
> On a PostgreSQL server?
> 
> > I cannot achieve anything without IP access with Java.
> 
> What does that sentence even mean?
> What exactly are you trying to do and what exactly happens?
> 
> 
> > If this is a hardware failure,
> 
> What is? A nonworking java plugin for firefox?
> Why would that be a hw failure? How do you even
> run firefox _on_your_remote_server_ ?


I am in Austin Texas, with my cute little crappy laptop in a truck stop
with lousy Wifi.
I have had a remote server in Lansing Michigan since 2007.
They offer a remote IP based Keyboard, video and mouse attachment that
they connect to my server.
I must have a web browser with Java in order to use it, from this or any
other location in the world.
I do not own the server, I rent it.

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