All the stuff under papers comes from wherever. It's not really part of the 
website proper. Consolidating all that content into a consistent style, any 
style, would be great.

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:00, Andres Perera wrote:
> imo the issue has more to do with one page using a completely
> different scheme than all the others. that happens when you copy-paste
> massive tags at the beginning of every doc instead of using your
> preferred flavor of "#include". you could of course go another route
> and try to justify it by saying it's html1 unlike the rest, but that's
> just as useless as fixating on the charset
> 
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Dave Anderson <d...@daveanderson.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Stuart Henderson wrote:
>>
>>>On 2012-06-28, ropers <rop...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 28 June 2012 01:17, Andres Perera <andre...@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>>>> A http://www.openbsd.org/papers/bsdcan11-mandoc-openbsd.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> that page is encoded iso 8859-1, doesn't state so anywhere, breaks
>>>>> with browsers configured to default to utf8 in the absence of encoding
>>>>> qualifiers
>>>>
>>>> $ telnet www.openbsd.org 80
>>>> Trying 142.244.12.42...
>>>> Connected to www.openbsd.org.
>>>> Escape character is '^]'.
>>>> GET /papers/bsdcan11-mandoc-openbsd.html HTTP/1.1
>>>> Host: www.openbsd.org
>>>>
>>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:59:19 GMT
>>>> Server: Apache
>>>> Last-Modified: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:11:28 GMT
>>>> ETag: "65f60c9352dee7ec594696cdfb681e86316269ef"
>>>> Accept-Ranges: bytes
>>>> Content-Length: 32754
>>>> Content-Type: text/html
>>>>
>>>><HTML>
>>>><BODY>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, this could transmit "Content-Type: text/html;
>>>> charset=iso-8859-1" but doesn't, but that's ok, we can do this on a
>>>> page-by-page basis with a META tag, which ought to be ignored by
>>>> browsers that don't understand it:
>>>
>>>IMO if it's worth doing this at all, it needs doing to *all* pages
>>>that need it, in one go, consistently.
>>>
>>>Anything else is likely to be way too much pain for the translators.
>>
>> Using META is _ugly_, especially for specifying a charset (since the
>> page will be read up through the META element using the charset
>> specified in the real header or assumed by the browser -- and that
>> charset could be incompatible with the actual encoding.)  Why not just
>> use the AddDefaultCharset directive to ensure that a charset is
>> specified in the real header for all pages?  Or is this known to break
>> some browsers that are still in use?
>>
>>        Dave
>>
>> --
>> Dave Anderson
>> <d...@daveanderson.com>

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