This is all making me very worried about Brad's MailScanner and whether or not 
it actually caught any viruses that might infect my mutt mail client. 

I wasn't aware that a firewall needed configuration files or GUI. What is my 
firewall doing? I don't know. How can claims of pure ignorance, prejudice and 
incompetence prevail? Was it scanned by MailScanner? That's what I really want 
to know.

Chris Eidem [cei...@primealliancesolutions.com] wrote:
> >From the g+ spew:
> 
> "I grew up and got a life!
> 
> "You boys need a good beating with the clue stick:
> Hacking configuration files directly does not give you better security.
> Hacking configuration files directly does not make you better at security.
> 
> "And the converse is true:
> Using a GUI to make firewall changes does not give you worse security
> Using a GUI to make firewall changes does not make you worse at security.
> 
> "You still need to know what you are doing!
> 
> "Any view contrary to this is borne of pure ignorance, prejudice and 
> incompetence."
> 
> 
> So, if there were some distro with a GUI front end for this "security 
> professional" with OpenBSD in the background, with some other name and 
> distributed as a bootable DVD -- call it DoucheWall -- OpenBSD would all of a 
> sudden become a "firewall"?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Smith
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 12:56 PM
> To: OpenBSD-Misc
> Subject: OpenBSD is just an OS, not a firewall...
> 
> ... if you really want a firewall you need pfSense.
> 
> Also if you " walk into any security experts convention and claim that
> raw OpenBSD is "a firewall", you will get laughed out of the room for
> lack of clue."
> 
> Guess I've been wrong all these years: see the comments to
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/104027218792812194992/posts/K3NsGE2UrCe

-- 
Keep them laughing half the time, scared of you the other half. And always keep 
them guessing. -- Clair George

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