since when? hmmmm. let me think.... since about OpenBSD 4.2 or so. and yes, I
still need some visual assistance when doing an install/upgrade.

also, to answer another poster's question: I use speakup from a linux source
package (with the proper line in sysctl.conf enabled for linux binaries.
getting speakup to compile required that I also install a number of packages
not currently in the ports tree.  lets just say that it is a real headache.

now, orca for X using XFCE works ok. it only requires the GTK dependencies,
python 5, some misc dependencies (almost all of which can be found in the
ports tree. still, I don't like using X as it can be a little less than
intuitive for us blind users.

still, given the number of access avenues we can use (serial port redirect,
virtual framebuffer devices that can be remotely connected to, cheap sound
devices and the like) a number of good possibilities can be taken advantage
of.

I have had chance to start trouble shooting the raw source code for speakup
and I know what the headache it has: sloppy code and failed documentation.
considering the time it takes to get that binary working, I am opting for a
more hardware solution and get a network capable framegrabber device and run a
lane cable from it to a dedicated lane port on my OS X machine. $234 will get
me one next month. now, if there were a device/brain interface, then I could
see the words in my braincase without the additional distractions of sound.
still, it would be glorious to be able to interface in a way thought possible.

I wish I could be able to plug right into my brain and show what it has been
missing.

as for my feat: I installed  and hop it works.4.5 openbsd
On May 12, 2012, at 2:58 AM, Andri wrote:

> 2012/5/12 Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com>
>
> > Oh, and Theo, I would understand if you find this idea a little far
fetched.
>
> hahaaaaa... "little far fetched"... Since when are u using OpenBSD? Reading
misc@ ?
>
> Andri

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