I forgot to mention one thing. I'm for sure glad to be in the project but
it's not my project so I don't want to take any credit for it. I have just
made some adjustments to make it build the latest versions of OpenBSD with
help from others.

Best regards Johan Ryberg


On May 8, 2012 7:27 AM, "Johan Ryberg" <jo...@securit.se> wrote:

> Yes.  I will fix this within the next 24 hours. I fully understand the
> concerns and the reason.
>
> Best regards Johan Ryberg
> On May 8, 2012 4:25 AM, "Nick Holland" <n...@holland-consulting.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 05/07/12 00:52, Johan Ryberg wrote:
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > Not stupid at all.
>> >
>> > Flashboot is not intended to replace a standard OpenBSD installation
>> and if
>> > you want to use a normal installation on a USB stick then you are
>> probably
>> > best off with the installation process that you described.
>> >
>> > Flashboot is made for appliances with sd-card from 128 Mb (64 Mb with
>> > little work). The entire file system is mounted as read only and the
>> > sd-card will not wear out. The update process is also simplified since
>> you
>> > only has to replace the kernel (ramdisk with entire userlard) and you
>> are
>> > up and running a new version of OpenBSD in minutes.
>> >
>> > Later some new scripts has been added to simplify and the script that
>> makes
>> > a bootable usb image of the install51.iso is one example of that but
>> that
>> > is not the Flashboot core, just a little tool.
>> >
>> > Best regards Johan Ryberg
>>
>> Any possibility we could request that the project description make it
>> more clear that this is NOT a mainstream, "here is how you should run
>> OpenBSD from flash media" solution?  And hopefully, a "this is NOT
>> supported by the OpenBSD project" notice, too?
>>
>> The problem is, a lot of people seem to find your project and decide,
>> "oh, this is how I should run OpenBSD from flash media", and then force
>> fit a Flashboot install into a "tiny" 2GB flash media, instead of just
>> doing a normal install and getting a normal system.
>>
>> I'm not denying there are places where either tiny amounts of storage
>> are available or where the ability to wack a power switch and have ZERO
>> concern for file system integrity (or waiting for an fsck after such an
>> event) are highly beneficial, but there are an awful lot of people who
>> believe this is The Way Things Should Be Done, then shoot themselves in
>> the foot because they have no idea what they are doing or how to support
>> the thing they have made.  And then they run to the OpenBSD lists
>> looking for support, confusing "based on OpenBSD" with "is OpenBSD".
>>
>> Nick.
>>
>> > On May 7, 2012 12:31 AM, "cody chandler" <cody.a.chand...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I have a possible stupid question.  How is the install hard if I simply
>> >> direct the install drive to /dev/sd0?  I have a 32Gb usb stick and have
>> >> 11Gigs for OBSD and the rest is fat32.  I'm not seeing how the default
>> >> installer is lacking options for install.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you
>> >> Cody
>> >> On May 6, 2012 6:09 PM, "Johan Ryberg" <jo...@securit.se> wrote:

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