On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:37 AM, lilit-aibolit <lilit-aibo...@mail.ru> wrote:
> 12.03.2012 18:01, Axton PI[ET:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:44 AM, lilit-aibolit<lilit-aibo...@mail.ru>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello misc, please give me some advice
>>> to buy low-power and low-noise HW.
>>> My selection - is:
>>> http://www.supermicro.nl/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm?typ=E
>>> that have Intel ICH9R chipset.
>>> But in supported hardware it is absent:
>>> - Intel 82801
>>> (ICH/ICH0/ICH2/ICH3/ICH4/ICH4-M/ICH5/ICH5R/ICH6/ICH6/ICH6/ICH7)
>>>
>>
>> I am using a 5015A (I think 5015A-EHF) without any issues. I don't
>> use the ICH9R or any other ICHxx RAID capabilities, so that chipset
>> does not matter to me. I think the whole architecture of using
>> allowing the chipset to use the kernel for RAID
>> capabilities/offloading is garbage. The design has too many points of
>> failure (kernel driver, chipset implementation and firmware, userland
>> software for raid management, etc.). It's an unreliable
>> implementation that allows people who do not understand what they are
>> doing to say "I have a RAID array" and gives them a pretty GUI to
>> manage the array. Software based raid in OpenBSD is fine, but lacks
>> some capabilities for setting up a raid array for the root partition,
>> though I admit I lack in depth knowledge in this area, so I could be
>> wrong with this statement. I'm sure others will chime in if I'm
>> mistaken.
>>
>> Note these bits:
>> pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801I SATA" rev 0x02: DMA,
>> channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI
>> pciide0: using apic 3 int 19 for native-PCI interrupt
>>
>> That's the important part. OpenBSD seems to work well with this
>> chipset. The network hardware/driver for this machine results in high
>> interrupt rates under heavy load. This is my only complaint with the
>> box. For my needs it works just fine though. I can move traffic
>> through the box at a rate that is acceptable for my needs.
>>
>> OpenBSD 5.0 (GENERIC.MP) #59: Wed Aug 17 10:19:44 MDT 2011
>>   dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
>> cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67
>> GHz
>> cpu0:
>>
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xT
PR,PDCM,MOVBE
>> real mem = 3220283392 (3071MB)
>> avail mem = 3157540864 (3011MB)
>> mainbus0 at root
>> bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 05/26/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
>> 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0x9ac00 (19 entries)
>> bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "1.0c" date 05/26/2010
>> bios0: Supermicro X7SPA-HF
>> acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
>> acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5
>> acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG SLIC OEMB HPET
>> acpi0: wakeup devices P0P1(S4) PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) USB0(S4) USB1(S4)
>> USB2(S4) USB5(S4) EUSB(S4) USB3(S4) USB4(S4) USB6(S4) USBE(S4)
>> P0P4(S4) P0P5(S4) P0P6(S4) P0P7(S4) P0P8(S4) P0P9(S4) GBE_(S4)
>> SLPB(S4)
>> acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
>> acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
>> cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
>> cpu0: apic clock running at 168MHz
>> cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
>> cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.69
>> GHz
>> cpu1:
>>
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xT
PR,PDCM,MOVBE
>> ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 3 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
>> ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 1, remapped to apid 3
>> acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe0000000, bus 0-255
>> acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
>> acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
>> acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P1)
>> acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P4)
>> acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P5)
>> acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P6)
>> acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (P0P7)
>> acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P8)
>> acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P9)
>> acpicpu0 at acpi0
>> acpicpu1 at acpi0
>> acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
>> acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
>> bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0x8000
>> ipmi at mainbus0 not configured
>> pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
>> pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Pineview DMI" rev 0x02
>> uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 16
>> uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 21
>> uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 19
>> ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 18
>> usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
>> uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
>> ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801I PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 17
>> pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
>> ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 "Intel 82801I PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 17
>> pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
>> em0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000 MT (82574L)" rev 0x00:
>> msi, address 00:25:90:09:9b:80
>> ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 "Intel 82801I PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 16
>> pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
>> em1 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000 MT (82574L)" rev 0x00:
>> msi, address 00:25:90:09:9b:81
>> uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 23
>> uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 19
>> uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 18
>> ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x02: apic 3 int 23
>> usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
>> uhub1 at usb1 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
>> ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI" rev 0x92
>> pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
>> vga1 at pci4 dev 4 function 0 "Matrox MGA G200eW" rev 0x0a
>> wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
>> wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
>> ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801IR LPC" rev 0x02: PM
>> disabled
>> pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801I SATA" rev 0x02: DMA,
>> channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI
>> pciide0: using apic 3 int 19 for native-PCI interrupt
>> wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0:<Hitachi HDS721010CLA332>
>> wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 953869MB, 1953525168 sectors
>> wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6
>> ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801I SMBus" rev 0x02: apic 3
>> int 18
>> iic0 at ichiic0
>> lm1 at iic0 addr 0x2d: W83627DHG
>> spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5 SO-DIMM
>> spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5 SO-DIMM
>> usb2 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
>> uhub2 at usb2 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
>> usb3 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
>> uhub3 at usb3 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
>> usb4 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
>> uhub4 at usb4 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
>> usb5 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
>> uhub5 at usb5 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
>> usb6 at uhci4: USB revision 1.0
>> uhub6 at usb6 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
>> usb7 at uhci5: USB revision 1.0
>> uhub7 at usb7 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
>> isa0 at ichpcib0
>> isadma0 at isa0
>> com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
>> com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
>> com2 at isa0 port 0x3e8/8 irq 5: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
>> pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
>> pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
>> pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
>> wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
>> pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
>> spkr0 at pcppi0
>> wbsio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: W83627DHG rev 0x25
>> lm2 at wbsio0 port 0xca0/8: W83627DHG
>> npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
>> mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
>> lm1: disabling sensors
>> uhidev0 at uhub4 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Winbond
>> Electronics Corp Hermon USB hidmouse Device" rev 1.10/0.01 addr 2
>> uhidev0: iclass 3/1
>> ums0 at uhidev0: 3 buttons, Z dir
>> wsmouse0 at ums0 mux 0
>> uhidev1 at uhub4 port 2 configuration 1 interface 1 "Winbond
>> Electronics Corp Hermon USB hidmouse Device" rev 1.10/0.01 addr 2
>> uhidev1: iclass 3/1
>> ukbd0 at uhidev1: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes
>> wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1
>> wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0
>> uhidev2 at uhub5 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Logitech Logitech
>> Illuminated Keyboard" rev 2.00/55.01 addr 2
>> uhidev2: iclass 3/1
>> ukbd1 at uhidev2: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes
>> wskbd2 at ukbd1 mux 1
>> wskbd2: connecting to wsdisplay0
>> uhidev3 at uhub5 port 1 configuration 1 interface 1 "Logitech Logitech
>> Illuminated Keyboard" rev 2.00/55.01 addr 2
>> uhidev3: iclass 3/0, 16 report ids
>> uhid0 at uhidev3 reportid 3: input=7, output=0, feature=0
>> uhid1 at uhidev3 reportid 16: input=6, output=6, feature=0
>> vscsi0 at root
>> scsibus0 at vscsi0: 256 targets
>> softraid0 at root
>> scsibus1 at softraid0: 256 targets
>> root on wd0a (4dcb2d0a1b8a2fe9.a) swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
>>
>> Axton Grams
>>
>>
>>
> Hello Axton, thanks for your reply.
> I do not want use RAID, I just need S-ATA
> to connect HDD and install system on it.
> My fear that I can't normally work with HDD
> because there is not Intel ICH9R in official
> OpenBSD hardware support.
> And what you mean about "The network hardware/driver
>
> for this machine results in high interrupt rates under heavy load."
> I need NAT small netwokr to Internet, Openvpn for remote clients and use
few
> IPSec site-to-site tunnels.

You will be fine creating a NAT for a small network and using IPSEC;
just don't expect to get close to 1gb throughput.  This applies for
most hardware, esp. cheaper hardware.  These boxes use 82574L, which
is a low-end/integrated NIC chipset.  If you want higher throughput
you can look at different network cards, like the Intel 82571 or
82576, though you will need to make sure the SuperMicro
chassis/motherboard supports an expansion card (some models do not
have a riser or the capability for a riser).

EXPI9402PT (82571)
E1G42ETBLK (82576)

I have around 20 endpoints on my networks using this box as a router
and IPSEC termination point, and it handles it well.  I have 4
separate subnets the router routes between and the router uses 1
interface as a trunk and vlans on the switch to handle all the
routing.

 Axton Grams

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