Paolo Aglialoro wrote: > Didn't know about the TERM variable pass over ssh... > > ...anyway, on those systems with many screen consoles like i386/amd64, one > could have a tty with vt220 to go ssh and another to deal correctly with > keyboard, that would be cool. So, still having that layout inside > terminals > list could be way interesting (after all, many people prefer pressing > Home, > End and Del instead of Ctrl-A/E/D). > > The only question would be for those systems which do not support this > like > sparc64 (even if, I know, the question was born around amd64, but then the > philosophy would become extensible...): does tmux inherit the TERM > variable > in the virual sessions opened or is there some degree of freedom?
Paolo Aglialoro wrote: > Does your config correctly support keys like Home, End, Del? > It would be then really interesting to have it inside term options, > whether > or not default, but at least as choice. > Christian Weisgerber wrote: >>>> "wsvt25" is a better description, but if you log into a non-OpenBSD >>>> system that terminal name may be unknown. >>> Do you mean that if I log into a non-OpenBSD system "wsvt25" may be >>> unknown? >> What I mean is this: You log into the OpenBSD console with >> TERM=wsvt25. Things are fine. Then from within this session you ssh to >> a non-OpenBSD system where "wsvt25" is not known. >> >> $ vi >> vi: No terminal database found >> $ less >> WARNING: terminal is not fully functional >> >> Etc. I think that: - wsvt25 may be unknown to the remote system (as Christian wrote above) as well as pccon - pccon can be included in termtypes.master (the last is constantly changing) so that people will have a choice (as proposed above by Paolo) - we can leave vt220 as the default terminal in /etc/ttys, wait a several years until the changes of termtypes.master spread widely enough, and then think about changing the default terminal for OpenBSD -- Alexei Malinin > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Stuart Henderson > <s...@spacehopper.org>wrote: >> On 2011-09-02, Alexei Malinin <alexei.mali...@mail.ru> wrote: >>> Stuart Henderson wrote: >>>> On 2011-09-02, Alexei Malinin <alexei.mali...@mail.ru> wrote: >>>>> Christian Weisgerber wrote: >>>>>> but if you log into a non-OpenBSD >>>>>> system that terminal name may be unknown. >>>>> terminal descriptions proposed by me are intended for >>>>> OpenBSD consoles only (these descriptions are of >>>>> questionable value in other systems) >>>> Do you never ssh or telnet from OpenBSD to another type of system? >>> of course I do ssh/telnet to other systems, >>> I understand Christian's notice, I mean that >>> my terminal descriptions are of questionable value >>> for other systems _consoles_ >> ssh and telnet pass the TERM variable to other systems. >> >> If you are using a TERM which the other system doesn't understand, >> they will fall back to a dumb terminal, which can be very annoying. >> There are workarounds but they can be annoying too. >> >> So, while it might be useful to have this in termcap (or adjust the >> existing wsvt* console entries which may perhaps be a better option), >> it doesn't seem sensible to set it by default in /etc/ttys.
