Hi Theo,

Straight up, I'm very sorry. It was not my intention to be rude and I'm
not a rude person. All I am is desperate to be able to use OpenBSD
again. The fact is I have been a supporter and advocate for OpenBSD for
many years and I admire you for what you've done. I just want to be able
to use OpenBSD again. I've been very patient waiting for support for
over a year now and the more time that passed, the less i could see my
chances of being able to use it. I don't have much in my life that makes
it worth while being here and one of my few sources of pleaseure has
just been cut off.
I'm wheelchair strickened due to a car accident as a child and OpenBSD
was a really great way to pass the time (it's more than that though - I
love it).

Please accept my appology and help me. As I said, I'm not a rude lady
and I'm sorry I may have come accross like that.

Cheers,
SophieL 


On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 23:30 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> If you don't know why your mail is rude, you better read it a few
> times through.
> 
> Totally sick of doing stuff for people who are rude to us.
> 
> > Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Delivery-Date: Mon Oct 17 23:24:57 2005
> > Received: from shear.ucar.edu (shear.ucar.edu [192.43.244.163])
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> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > From: "Sophie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jonathan Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Theo de Raadt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <misc@openbsd.org>
> > Subject: Re: "ATI SB200 USB" ports on Toshiba Satellite
> > Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:52:46 +1000
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
> > X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d
> > X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain
> > X-Loop: misc@openbsd.org
> > Precedence: list
> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Hi Jonathan,
> > (please read my message in full and see my desperation - All I want
is 
> > my usb port working - I've got no mouse)
> > 
> > You may not have got my last email. My question was:
> > 
> > If ATI don't release information about their hardware designs, then
how
> > did the OpenBSD developers get the info needed to write the driver
for
> > my dreadfully incompatible ATI IXP soundcard in this system (sound
works
> > under 3.8 snapshots)?
> > Also, USB works under NetBSD 2.0/Linux (FC3-4, SuSe - I've tried
it). 
> > How did they get it working?
> > How come OpenBSD developers can't?
> > It's all I want. I'd even be prepared to pay for it (If you count
all of 
> > the OpenBSD CD releases that I've already bought in the past, I've 
> > already paid for it)
> > 
> > Please, please help me.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Sophie
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Sophie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jonathan Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <misc@openbsd.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: "ATI SB200 USB" ports on Toshiba Satellite
> > 
> > 
> > > Thanks for the response Jonathan,
> > >
> > > Not questioning you. Just asking for enlightenment!
> > >
> > > If ATI don't release information about their hardware
> > > designs, then how did the OpenBSD developers
> > > get the info needed to write the driver for my dreadfully
incompatible
> > > ATI IXP soundcard in this system (sound works under 3.8
snapshots)?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Soph
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Jonathan Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Sophie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: "Chris Kuethe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <misc@openbsd.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 8:57 PM
> > > Subject: Re: "ATI SB200 USB" ports on Toshiba Satellite
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 05:38:10PM +1000, Sophie wrote:
> > >>> Hi Chris and thanks for the reply.
> > >>>
> > >>> I know that if it's not loudly announced here there's
> > >>> a good chance it won't be looked at but my soundcard
> > >>> was in the same boat as the USB (It's an ATI
> > >>> IXP200 - also an uncommon beast - now works under
> > >>> 3.8 using the auixp driver). I never saw anything
> > >>> mentioned about my difficult soundcard in misc or
> > >>> anywhere else for that matter and yet 3.8 supports
> > >>> it (there are still Linux distros out there that don't).
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't care about anything else other than the USB ports.
> > >>> REALLY: This is making life unbearable.
> > >>> I can't use a USB mouse and I have no serial ports.
> > >>> I have no mouse (the touchpad doesn't work properly).
> > >>> I can't use any USB devices at all (but the mouse is all
> > >>> that matters to me). I'm desperate. I LOVE OpenBSD
> > >>> and have been a follower for many years now but this is
> > >>> making the OpenBSD experience extremely extremely painful
> > >>> and almost impossible to use whether in X or console.
> > >>>
> > >>> I realize they can only do what they can do and if it's
> > >>> unfixable, then I won't know what to do then, but for
> > >>> the last year and a half, I've waited to see if the new release
> > >>> will fix it and I don't know how many CD's I've wasted
> > >>> trying the 3.8 snapshots ever time they're updated, to
> > >>> no avail.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please help me.
> > >>>
> > >>> SophieL
> > OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC) #191: Thu Oct 13 14:58:02 MDT 2005
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
> > cpu0: Mobile
> > Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 3.07
GHz
> > cpu0:
> >
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
> > H,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,EST,TM2,CNXT-ID
> > cpu0:
> > Enhanced SpeedStep 2300 MHz (1356 mV): unknown EST cpu, no changes
possible
> > real mem  = 200843264 (196136K)
> > avail mem = 176422912 (172288K)
> > using 2477
> > buffers containing 10145792 bytes (9908K) of memory
> > mainbus0 (root)
> > bios0 at
> > mainbus0: AT/286+(1a) BIOS, date 02/16/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xe99b0
> > apm0 at
> > bios0: Power Management spec V1.1
> > apm0: battery life expectancy 100%
> > apm0: AC
> > on, battery charge unknown, estimated 4:18 hours
> > apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0
> > doidle 1
> > pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xe7000/0x680
> > pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing
> > Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfe840/176 (9 entries)
> > pcibios0: no compatible PCI ICU found:
> > ICU vendor 0x1002 product 0x4353
> > pcibios0: Warning, unable to fix up PCI
> > interrupt routing
> > pcibios0: PCI bus #3 is the last bus
> > bios0: ROM list:
> > 0xc0000/0xf000 0xe0000/0x2000! 0xe6000/0x1000! 0xeb000/0x5000!
> > ipmi at
> > mainbus0 not configured
> > cpu0 at mainbus0
> > pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration
> > mode 1 (no bios)
> > pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "ATI RS300 Host" rev 0x02
> > ppb0
> > at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "ATI Radeon IGP 9100 AGP" rev 0x00
> > pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
> > vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 "ATI Radeon Mobility IGP 9100" rev
0x00
> > wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> > wsdisplay0: screen
> > 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> > ohci0 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 "ATI SB200
> > USB" rev 0x01pci_intr_map: no mapping for pin A
> > : couldn't map interrupt
> > ohci1
> > at pci0 dev 19 function 1 "ATI SB200 USB" rev 0x01pci_intr_map: no
mapping for
> > pin A
> > : couldn't map interrupt
> > ehci0 at pci0 dev 19 function 2 "ATI SB200
> > USB2" rev 0x01pci_intr_map: no mapping for pin A
> > : couldn't map interrupt
> > "ATI
> > SB200 SMBus" rev 0x1a at pci0 dev 20 function 0 not configured
> > pciide0 at pci0
> > dev 20 function 1 "ATI IXP200 IDE" rev 0x00: DMA, channel 0
configured to
> > compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
> > wd0 at pciide0 channel 0
> > drive 0: <HTS424030M9AT00>
> > wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 28615MB, 58605120
> > sectors
> > wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 5
> > atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
> > scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
> > cd0
> > at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <MATSHITA, UJDA760 DVD/CDRW, 1.50> SCSI0
5/cdrom
> > removable
> > cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 2
> > pcib0 at pci0 dev 20 function 3 "ATI SB200 PCI-ISA" rev 0x00
> > ppb1 at pci0 dev
> > 20 function 4 "ATI SB200 PCI-PCI" rev 0x00
> > pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
> > cbb0 at pci2 dev
> > 6 function 0 vendor "ENE", unknown product 0x1411 rev
0x00pci_intr_map: no
> > mapping for pin A
> > : couldn't map interrupt
> > vendor "ENE", unknown product
> > 0x0530 (class memory subclass flash, rev 0x00) at pci2 dev 6
function 1 not
> > configured
> > vendor "ENE", unknown product 0x0550 (class system unknown subclass
> > 0x05, rev 0x00) at pci2 dev 6 function 2 not configured
> > rl0 at pci2 dev 7
> > function 0 "Realtek 8139" rev 0x10: irq 11 address 00:a0:d1:b7:0e:f0
> > rlphy0 at
> > rl0 phy 0: RTL internal phy
> > "Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 FireWire" rev 0x00 at
> > pci2 dev 10 function 0 not configured
> > auixp0 at pci0 dev 20 function 5 "ATI
> > IXP200 AC97" rev 0x01: irq 10
> > auixp0: soft resetting aclink
> > auixp0: not up;
> > resetting aclink hardware
> > auixp0: not up; resetting aclink hardware
> > auixp0:
> > aclink hardware reset successful
> > vendor "ATI", unknown product 0x434d (class
> > communications subclass modem, rev 0x01) at pci0 dev 20 function 6
not
> > configured
> > isa0 at pcib0
> > isadma0 at isa0
> > pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
> > pckbd0 at
> > pckbc0 (kbd slot)
> > pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
> > wskbd0 at pckbd0: console
> > keyboard, using wsdisplay0
> > pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
> > pckbc0: using irq 12 for
> > aux slot
> > wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
> > pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
> > midi0 at pcppi0: <PC
> > speaker>
> > spkr0 at pcppi0
> > sysbeep0 at pcppi0
> > lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
> > npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
> > pccom2 at isa0 port 0x3e8/8 irq
> > 5: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
> > pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0/2 iomem 0xd0000/65536
> > pcic0
> > controller 0: <Intel 82365SL rev 2> has socket A only
> > pcmcia0 at pcic0
> > controller 0 socket 0
> > pcic0: irq 3, polling enabled
> > biomask e355 netmask eb55
> > ttymask fbdf
> > pctr: user-level cycle counter enabled
> > dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS
> > drive 0x80
> > root on wd0a
> > rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302
> > ac97: codec id
> > 0x414c4752 (Avance Logic ALC250A?)
> > ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC,
> > 18 bit ADC, No 3D Stereo
> > audio0 at auixp0

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